The switch to USB-C is good! Except for all the dongles you’ll need to get there.

  • Kalash@feddit.ch
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    But if you want to really get all the juice in and out of your new iPhone, especially if you’re buying a 15 Pro or Pro Max, you’ll need the $69 Thunderbolt 4 Pro Cable

    I mean, that is an outright lie. There is nothing a TB4 cable would add over a USB 3.2 cable here.

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      Hell it’s talking about juice, a £5 amazon basic USB PD cable with 2.0 speeds will support up to 65w (25w on iphone due to their own limits)

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      The premise of the article is you buying an adapter from Apple to make your old stuff work with the new phone and highlighting how ridiculously priced they are. It’s not a lie, as this is the actual price of the adapter. Sure, you can buy third-party stuff just like you can buy a phone from a different manufacturer and avoid the issue altogether, but that’s obvious, no?

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        Not talking about an adapter, but a simple usb-c to usb-c cable with usb 3.2 standard, They are basically wothless. I have a about 30 of them sitting in a box at the office.

        There is simply no reason why you would need an expensive thunderbolt 4 cable to charge a phone or transfere data at 10Gbps. Either these “journalists” are lying or they don’t understand USB.

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          A) you obviously glossed over (or intentionally omitted) the very next paragraph when you quoted the article in your original comment.

          (I should remind you here that the beauty of USB-C is that Apple’s not the only company in charge of it. There are tons of cables out there, and for most people, there’s no reason you should need the mega-fast ones anyway. Just get the charger that matches your charging speed and your wall plug, and you’re golden.)

          B) if this product had no use, Apple wouldn’t have spent money manufacturing it.

          C) if this cable is useless, what cheaper alternative does Apple offer that is capable of giving you both fast charging speed and fast data transfer speed?

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            This cable is for stuff like docking stations for laptops with multiple 4K displays

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              That’s true but Apple doesn’t offer any alternative cable apart from “charging cables.”

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            A. I’m not ommitting it. It still suggests that there would a benefit of using a TB4 cable. There isn’t.

            B. The product is very useful if you want to connect something with actual thunderbolt 4 capabilites. Like laptop to a docking station. It’s just that in the case using the higher-standard cable doesn’t add anything overusing a cheaper one.

            C. If you just care about charging, you can get a offical apple cable for $20. They don’t sell USB 3.2 cables from what I can see in their shop. So bascially if you want to use the new IPhones max transfer speed (which is just double what what you can do with the cheap one) they force you to buy a cable that is 10x more capable and costs 4x as much.

            But you can could get a cable that can utilise the full capacity for around $10 bucks from Samsung or other major brands.

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              It still suggests that there would a benefit of using a TB4 cable. There isn’t.

              They don’t sell USB 3.2 cables from what I can see in their shop. So bascially if you want to use the new IPhones max transfer speed (which is just double what what you can do with the cheap one) they force you to buy a cable that is 10x more capable and costs 4x as much.

              Please refer back to my original comment stating the premise of the article. You just described the exact reason why they included this cable in the article (including your phrasing of ‘forced to buy’). It’s because Apple doesn’t offer you any alternative.

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                So why not properly mention alternatives? What’s your point here? Because this basically just confirms this is thinly veiled apple ad.

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                  Strange ad considering they’re mocking Apple’s high prices and telling you there are cheaper alternatives out there but okay.

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    In other news: Water is wet

    Though it should be pointed out, this article is a little wonky. No iPhone needs a thunderbolt 4 charging cable.

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    I love a lot of Apple’s products, but their wires are easily the worst of the worst. They’re expensive and made to fall apart after like 6 months.

    • 𝒍𝒆𝒎𝒂𝒏𝒏@lemmy.one
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      Gotta love the Macbook charger cables that wear down to exposed wires after a few years of normal use. Some will even give you a small sparky lightshow reminding you it’s time to be a consumer again!

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        When I had a MacBook Pro with the 1st generation Magsafe, I went through 2 legit Apple chargers and 3 off brand ones in the 9 years I had the laptop. One of the off brand chargers even exploded! Well, a capacitor inside it exploded, but it was designed well enough that it didn’t damage anything else or catch fire.

        I’ve only ever had that one laptop, and I was using it in college so I was constantly plugging and unplugging it, so I have no idea how abnormal that cable use is.

        Magsafe is super cool, and it definitely saved my computer from certain death several times, but damn it sucked buying those expensive chargers. It would’ve been nice just to buy the cable, not the whole damn charger.

        • 𝒍𝒆𝒎𝒂𝒏𝒏@lemmy.one
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          I now use a USB-C to magsafe 1 adapter on my Mid 2012 MBP, free to replace the cable and charger at any time. Currently using a 65W PD brick and a nice long 10ft/3m cable 😁

          The magsafe connector has saved my ass a bunch of times too LOL, my previous barrel jack laptop was yanked off tables more than a few times. Uni lectures were the worst as multiple people wouldn’t see the charger on the floor and trip on it 🥲

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        I currently have an iPhone cable that is frayed at the neck of the iPhone connection end. It’s from repeated bending from completely normal use. I had to stop using it because it was actually making my iPhone hot and was having sluggish connection issues. This is now the 3rd cable to do this and that includes MacBook cables too.

        Apple intentionally makes them cheap because they’re such an easy moneymaker for them. I have tons of old cables from other devices that have never had this issue, so I know this isn’t some isolated thing and I’m somehow the stupid one in the scenario. Their cables are terrible.

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        My 14” MacBook Pro has a braided MagSafe cable. It took way too long but they did finally fix that problem.

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        My 2011 MacBook Pro is on her original charger… I don’t know how you all take such poor care of your stuff.

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          Same. I’m still using my original lightning cable (USB-A and all) and it looks almost new other than some staining from use.

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            Same! I DO tape and heat-shrink the ends of my lightning cables now, though… after one of my cats decided my extra long one looked absolutely delicious.

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          It’s the people who tightly wind their cords up every time they put it in the bag. I always just loosely put the charger in my bag to minimize stress on the ends of the cords.

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      This kind of dongle would be for Lightning accessories that plug into the phone, like headphones or speakers, where you can’t just swap out a cable because it’s built in. No more lightning port means those electronics would be useless for the new phones.

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    All this arguing aside, good job EU. Good legislation at work right there. Whether people claim it’s better or not everyone in the end wins. Single adapter used with all devices, single cable provided for charging and data transfers. Simplicity and eco friendly. Everybody wins, especially iPhone users since now they don’t have to deal with shitty cables costing 40$ which fall apart 3 months after purchase.

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      It isn’t made by Apple, therefore it must be bad and probably will break your phone /s

      There’s really nothing wrong with it, it’s just that Apple knows they can charge anything for the silliest things and a wave of mindless consumers will buy without thinking

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      You probably won’t get full charging speed. An actual type-c cable gives higher watts than lightning.

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        I have a $2 USB C cable I got off of Ali that I use to charge my laptop at 65W. It’s rated for 100W but I have no way of testing it.

        It’s actually higher quality than any official apple cable I’ve used, although that’s a pretty low bar.

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    I don’t need any of these, I already have the USB-C cables for my laptop, that was the whole point of switching to USB-C. Also in the cover photo is that a USB-C to USB-C dongle? What use is that??

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          I’m sure they’re hoping people will buy them to connect to existing Lightning cables for charging, but the main use would be connecting to a handful of lightning-based peripherals.

          Yes, niche use.

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    I simply can not fathom the obsession people have with Apple products when they so egregiously price gouge their customers.