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    9 months ago

    All the “I typed [thing] in Google, I’m probably on a watch list now” jokes are not only accurate but upheld by the highest law of the land… Cool.

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      9 months ago

      The Colorado Supreme Court is most certainly not the highest court in the land… I would like to see this reviewed at the federal level, because it appears unconstitutional.

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        I hate to break it to you but look at the current supreme court and sincerely tell me they won’t uphold this bullshit.

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      Now you know not to search on Google regarding planned acts of terrorism against the establishment tyranny. But what the heck are you doing searching on Google anyway?

      We know that police and courts don’t believe in fourth amendment protections, especially when it comes to people they really want to convict. The problem is, when they justify illegally obtained evidence for child molesters and serial killers, then it’s easy to justify the same for illegal parkers in non-white neighborhoods, or persons protesting against law enforcement overreach.

      And that’s why the state of the US engages in the same indictments that are listed in the US Declaration of Independence.

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        planned acts of terrorism

        Like the British guy who booked a flight to the US and tweeted something like “gonna destroy America”, and his thoughtless comment about bar hopping turned into an extra uncomfortable TSA screening. If only he had stuck to threatening vandalism, perhaps “painting the town red”

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        I’m a computer engineer with over 30 years of experience. If I’d want to be a terrorist, they can Monitor google, and they wouldn’t find me. They can decrypt WhatsApp and a few others and they’d still not find me. They wouldn’t be able to find anyone halfway capable.

        What they WOULD find is a lot of people just going about their day.

        Makes you wonder who they’re trying to target with all this shit.

        Banning encryption won’t stop child porn, not even a little bit

        Monitoring google won’t stop terrorism (or child porn) not even a little bit

        Can we please Please PLEASE make a law that requires politicians to know what they’re taking about? If a politician votes about banning encryption, he either know what it does and why it works or if he doesn’t know, he.doesnt get to vote.

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    i am quite sure such programs allready exists for a long time.

    everything you do on servers owned by american companys will get u scored.

    the nsa has a folder for allmost every human who ever used the internet, and doing certain things will rank u up in score.

    Once your score reaches a critical high, human may check your folder to see if u are just a courios child searching for diy fireworks or a potential terrorist.

    If that human sees the remote chance that u are the second type, they then keep close taps on you.

    And if they see u buying sketchy shit then may come to your door to check up on you.

    Google once had the motto: “dont be evil”.

    People need to realize…they where not talking about themself.

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      Just remember to Google the occasional obedient remark.

      “Why am I so gosh darn patriotic?”

      “Is it normal to never want to hurt the USA?”

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        i just paste whole movie subtitles into search line by line with a script…giving the NSA check person some culture.

        Fun fact: after doing this for a few years u get plausible deniability cause everything u say could just have been another movie quote

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      9 months ago

      I highly doubt the NSA is going to just knock on your door to tell you that they are watching.

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      Yes at the national security level. Now civilization police can do it directly.

      Before the organizations had to coordinate and come up with an excuse for having the data, commonly referred to as parallel construction. Now they don’t have to do that work

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      I think they have been doing that since the beginning of time (or at least the beginning of wired phones)

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    I’m a computer engineer with over 30 years of experience. If I’d want to be a terrorist, they can Monitor google, and they wouldn’t find me. They can decrypt WhatsApp and a few others and they’d still not find me. They wouldn’t be able to find anyone halfway capable.

    What they WOULD find is a lot of people just going about their day.

    Makes you wonder who they’re trying to target with all this shit.

    Banning encryption won’t stop child porn, not even a little bit

    Monitoring google won’t stop terrorism (or child porn) not even a little bit

    Can we please Please PLEASE make a law that requires politicians to know what they’re taking about? If a politician votes about banning encryption, he either know what it does and why it works or if he doesn’t know, he.doesnt get to vote.

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    Duck duck go protects you from this, correct?

    Why would anyone use Google after this precedent?

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      Headquartered in the US so I wouldn’t guarantee it.
      This was against Google specifically but I would imagine it would hold up against any US based search engine they felt someone was using.

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        Right, they must respond to a subpoena. But they don’t retain search records, do they?

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          In some cases they must retain the information. Like your ISP in the USA had to retain data for le purposes.

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            Your statement contradicts their stated policy, and I’m not aware of any such requirement in the US.

            https://duckduckgo.com/privacy

            IP retention is addressed in the first paragraph under “privacy policy”, and it stated they don’t save or log it.

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                Your point is not unique: all websites require your trust.

                So if that’s your threat model you can’t use any search engine.

                But if we want to put that aside and discuss their stated policy, then the link I provided addressed the parent statement that

                In some cases they must retain the information. Like your ISP in the USA had to retain data for le purposes.

                Which directly refutes that there is any such requirement.

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      I think all search engines have this issue since law enforcement can step in any time.

      The one exception might be proxy searches

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    9 months ago

    Bui in messages to Seymour and his sister said he wanted to get back at the people who robbed him, stating, “They’re going to get theirs like I got mine.” Bui on Aug. 2, messaged Seymour and wrote, “#possiblyruinourfuturesandburnhishousedown”.

    Hmm