A jury convicted a Florida man of first-degree murder Wednesday in the 2018 strangling and beating death of his wife after she refused to appear on a home renovation reality TV show, prosecutors said.

David Tronnes, 55, killed his wife, Shanti Cooper-Tronnes, on April 24, 2018, in the couple’s home in the Orlando neighborhood of Delaney Park, the State Attorney’s Office for the Ninth Judicial Circuit said in a statement Wednesday.

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      I think you mean, “Glad he was found guilty.” I don’t think you are glad he is guilty of killing someone.

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          Being guilty and being found guilty are different things. One happens the moment the crime occurs, the other happens when a verdict is rendered. The law goes by the second one because it doesn’t have a crystal ball to figure out the first.

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              No they aren’t. Even the law just looks for proof “beyond reasonable doubt” rather than saying it’s objective truth. The law allows for appeals because it knows it’s not right all the time. It’ll deny bail if it believes a person is a danger or flight risk, despite having no conviction yet. It will release names of people charged with crimes, knowing that the public often confuses that with guilt. Prosecutors push for convictions rather than truth.

              There’s a lot of ways that you can show that actual guilt and lawful guilt are two different things, even in the eyes of the law itself.

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          The full quote is “innocent until proven quilty in the eyes of the law.” The court is trying to discover guilt or not, not actually creating it. If you killed someone you killed someone. Whether the court has enough evidence to convict you of it doesn’t matter. You’re either guilty or not of the act. The court mat not find enough evidence to convict you, so they’ll find you “not guilty” (which I’ll note is not finding you innocent). However, just like you might not find your keys, guilt or innocence exists regardless of the findings. Maybe the search just wasn’t good enough. The law just may not view you as guilty if it couldn’t be proven beyond a reasonable doubt.

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    I know the heart want what the heart wants but…

    She chose poorly. Don’t tolerate abusive behavior. It’s a sign of something.

    This guy’s obviously the problem, and not her, but get away from crazy people for ducks sake. The crazy is not all there is. It’s just the label.

    She did NOT deserve to die, not saying that. But she might have lived if she had had hard boundaries of tolerable behavior. If this was the first time he acted out, then I’m sorry for judging, it couldn’t be helped. But I don’t think so.

    Shit, I know I’m going to regret hitting “Post”.

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        Gonna disagree with that. Just because the path to safety is also dangerous doesn’t mean it’s not the path to safety.

        People are sometimes forced to choose between two dangerous options.

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          People are sometimes forced to choose between two dangerous options.

          And yet you disagree with the fact that the chance of being murdered increases when they make the choice to leave? Even when provided evidence?

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            I disagree with the suggestion that “getting away is in no way a path to safety”.

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                It’s like escaping a war-torn country as a refugee. Is that trip dangerous? Yes. Does that mean they should stay in an unsafe situation? No.

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                  It’s not the same. Not every abusive relationship is a threat to your life but 75% of the time escaping an abusive relationship adds a new threat to life. Maybe a better way of putting it would have been “a guaranteed path to safety” but at that point you’re just arguing semantics. I would be extremely surprised if escaping a war-torn country adds another 75% chance you’ll be murdered. And it’s not an argument to not leave the relationship if that’s what you’re taking from all this.

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      There’s an easy way to prevent the deaths of women by their male partners! It’s called “men don’t kill their female partners.” It’s that easy. Try it sometime!

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      Shit, I know I’m going to regret hitting “Post”.

      “Discard draft” was definitely the way to go and delete is still an option.

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      It has nothing to do with the heart.

      Sigh. I really wish that people who don’t know what they are talking about would just not post.

      I “escaped” my abusive marriage, just to watch my kids be abused by him for fifteen years. It’s not a decision between good and bad. It’s mostly a choice between bad and bad. Abuse leaves victims no good choices.

      Much of the time, the first definitive sign is the one that ends up with you dead.

      I’ve been in a largely invisible one-sided war for almost twenty years. I have a lot of resources many victims simply don’t have, and still I’m stuck. The last thing any of us needs is an armchair referee telling us what we should be doing while stuffing metaphorical Cheetos up his nose.

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      It’s not so simple and easy to get away from an abusive partner. They often put on a fake persona when meeting a new partner for the first time.

      You might not realize how screwed up someone is until some time later, and it’s usually after they’ve sunk their claws into you.

      If they’ve managed to work their tactics on people that should be your support network, it makes it even harder to leave and get help. The more skilled someone is at manipulating, the harder it is to see them as they truly are.

      This woman didn’t deserve to die, and the husband is clearly a threat to society if he kills someone over a TV show.

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      If you find yourself talking a lot to defend a prior statement maybe stop and consider it for a few minutes before posting.