• volvoxvsmarla @lemm.ee
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    8 months ago

    I don’t get the focus on whether he was poisoned/actively killed or not. If he died of “just collapsing” the Russian regime is still 100% responsible for his death. They killed him either way. Putin killed Navalny, the means by which that happened are secondary.

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      8 months ago

      Because he very likely has been. Putin has a long history of people “mysteriously” dying. if it happens once in a blue moon, it’s a conspiracy theory. But it happens so damn often that it’s practically undeniable.

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        8 months ago

        I agree, but does it matter in this case? It feels like a potato potato discussion. Let’s assume for a moment he wasn’t poisoned. Was he not still killed brutally by Putin’s regime? From years of being mistreated and abused? What difference does it make whether he was poisoned, shot, or just exhausted to death? The means by which his death occurred are secondary, him dying by the hands of Putin is primary, isn’t it? Putin is his killer, one way or the other.

        And I think we are all in the clear that Putin and his regime like to kill off people that aren’t taking part in their shenanigans. Navalny’s death, even if officially proven to have been accelerated by direct means, will not change the minds of those who don’t believe in the government’s brutal killing spree.

  • GiuseppeAndTheYeti@midwest.social
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    8 months ago

    He’s absolutely not Vladimir Putin but let’s not hail him as this shining beacon of truth just because he’s a martyr. He was still a Russia first nationalist that supported the Russians during the Russo-Georgian war and was vocally supportive of the annexation of Crimea. He even made a youtube video where he played a pest control specialist and explains how to rid themselves of immigrants while comparing them to fleas and cockroaches. In the video he is attacked by a figure presumed to be one of the muslim immigrants he is calling to be exterminated and shoots them twice in the chest.

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    8 months ago

    I still don’t understand why Navalny returned to Russia. He knew he would be arrested, so why do it at all? Now he’s dead, quite conveniently for Putin.

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      8 months ago

      My assumption would be that he hoped he could at least become a martyr for the Russian people. It is one thing to be accused of crimes, and flee your country forever, it leaves space for Russians to think “well if he is an innocent man, why is he on the run? If he wishes to represent this country, how can he if he flees it?”. Maybe he hoped that by coming back and facing the ridiculous charges, it could at least give him some credibility with the citizens who would maybe see the absurdity of it all, and maybe spark some kind of political unrest. It obviously didn’t work, but in the face of the hopeless political situation in Russia, can you blame him for trying?

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      8 months ago

      I agree something doesn’t feel right.

      1. His wife was at the Munich conference today, so close to his death. And she was with a new boyfriend too.

      2. The same world leaders towing the line of the Zionist lobbies with their joint statements after Oct 7 also all came out today with very similar statements.

      Somethings definately fishy.

      I think this was a way for the Americans to regain political initiative after the Tucker interview.

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      8 months ago

      “This country” This is world news thread, and even then is a UK news article. Americans and their damn elections …

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        8 months ago

        You are right, and I apologize again. Once again through I will say, while it came from an (admittedly self centered) American point of view, there’s plenty of other places that it could have just as easily come from.

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        8 months ago

        You are right, apologies, I’m talking from the US perspective but we aren’t alone, same could be said from several…

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      8 months ago

      Not half. Never forget that the insane, reactionary conservatives are a minority in this country. They’re just extremely loud.

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        8 months ago

        They’re only a “minority” because a third of the country will happily sit on the sidelines while they try to kill the other third.

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          8 months ago

          US elections are mostly by state not by county. You can see states that voted blue despite being majority red on the county level. And Alaska is the opposite example where county level seems more blue but the state is red. It’s a misleading map because it doesn’t represent population density. Most of red counties are low population areas.

          The state distribution however is kinda BS, but the real reason republicans can have power with a clear minority is because of the FPTP voting that prefers a two party system instead of a multiparty system. GOP would be far more fringe party if more alternatives existed.