• givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    Headline is kind of funny, but I wanted to know what he shot at

    In body cam footage shared across social media, the officer was seen jumping to the ground and shouted “shots fired” after the acorn strikes the roof of his car. He then turned and emptied every bullet from his gun, each aimed squarely at his squad car.

    Funny again…

    While Hernandez fired on the car, Marquis Jackson, who was accused of stealing his girlfriend’s car, was in the back of the police cruiser. Officers had searched, handcuffed and loaded the accused into the back of the police car and, despite being cuffed, it was Jackson that the officer thought was shooting at him.

    Nope, he was trying to kill someone handcuffed in the back of his squad car and had already been searched for weapons.

    Cop should at least be facing reckless endangerment, if not attempted murder.

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        Same as when they think they’re doing on fentanyl…

        After hearing the sound of the acorn, the deputy reported that he also felt a “tingliness” all along the side of his body. He then said his “legs just give out” and he fell to the ground, assuming that he had been seriously injured by something.

        Because of this, the video also showed Hernandez complaining about feeling “weird” and shouting to his colleague that he’s been hit. It’s all very dramatic.

        Cops are constantly terrified because of their training, so they panic and mistake a panic attack for something else.

        Being a cop sucks so much (because of their own leadership and culture) that good qualified people do t want to be a cop. So we end up with these fragile snowflakes that shouldn’t be allowed to carry at all. Let alone be a cop

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          These idiots are so convinced that merely touching fentanyl will make them collapse that it actually happens to them.

          If fentanyl was that strong, people would buy one bag and it would last for like a year.

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          …fragile snowflakes that shouldn’t be allowed to carry at all.

          Yeah but deputy tacticool has holo sights. Not wasted on him at all.

          Poor Durango.

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        “It hit my vest” and “I feel weird”. Them be signs that his fat ass has coronary artery disease. Fucking Okaloosa County. Good riddance. Don’t miss it.

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      I deal with PTSD vets every day so I understand the snap buuuuut… No one else gets to get away with a slap on the wrist because of their mental illness so fuckem

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        I mean. Being in combat and being a cop are two different things.

        Maybe this guy was in a shootout and has PTSD, maybe this is the only time he’s ever fired on duty and he’s just a coward who panicked.

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    One commenter added some critical context to the story:

    I actually just read about this, early today. I think two things were involved here, neither of which were mentioned in this article:

    The officer served (2) tours overseas. Seeing the lasting affects a tour in Afghanistan has had on a relative, I believe this officer has undiagnosed PTSD which impacted his reaction here.

    The officers had reason to believe Jackson owned/possessed a firearm with a suppressor. The sound of a suppressed 9mm isn’t terribly dissimilar from an acorn falling on sheet metal.

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      Doesn’t matter if it was a perfect replay of an exact recording of the weapon they expected to be facing. He emptied a clip into an unknown target with no visual confirmation.

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      A pistol with a suppressor on it is still loud as fuck though. You would have been able to hear it in the cam footage. Also, these are the kinds of situations that happen when you get soldiers trained to kill to come back and play police duty with civilians. Its inexcusable, even if he does have PTSD.

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        Fact is that guns with silencers are still really loud with silencers, correct. Not like in the movies… with normal ammunition. In that case, the sonic boom is what you hear. But with subsonic ammunition and a slightly larger silencer it is really very quiet and can sound like in the video or in movies almost. It’s hard to find on youtube because very few people want to shoot with such weak cartridges + with a silencer additionally, but if you’re really interested you can find it. If I remember after work I can look for another demonstration and post it here. if you are interested.

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    Florida Man has nothing on Florida Squirrel. This brave officer barely escaped a brazen assassination attempt by the infamous terrorists, Squirrels Anonymous!

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      Damn, if squirrels started going after fascists in uniforms we really could start getting some serious positive momentum couldn’t we.

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    If a random loud bang from an acorn falling nearby is enough to get someone to behave like this, they really should not be walking around with a gun. This is completely insane and unhinged behavior.

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      theres no reason for most officers to be lethally armed their entire shift.

      they are trained the exact opposite; be afraid of everything and empty the clip. ask questions later.

      this cop behaved as he was trained

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    Unpopular opinion: Cop pay and training is inadequate. If you want professional cops, you need to hire professional people and train them professionally. The only people that apply to become officers are morons and the power hungry. People with integrity don’t apply because the money is shit.

    Any job that trades money for fraternity is a job that’s garbage. And boy oh boy are cop houses frats.

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      Cops in my area get paid about 70-100K USD yearly, but it’s a high cost of living area. Sergeants and above, though, make bank. We’re taking $120K and above. They’re just as shitty as cops in the sticks. It’s anecdotal, but I wonder if fixing income alone has little effect.

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        Low bar and high pay? Huh.

        Yeahhh they need a higher bar. And then the pay to match that.

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      Top comment really nails it:

      This is unironically the most embarrassing video I have seen in my entire life. I am not exaggerating at all. I would kill myself if there were footage of me acting like this. Dude gets scared by an acorn, does a Max-Payne-backwards-dive, unloads 20 roads into his own car (luckily not murdering the unarmed guy in the back of it), does some horrid Arnold-Schwarzenegger impression while crawling over the floor bawling his eyes out, and then forces an armed stand-off with literally no one. Actually absolutely insane, the most unhinged behaviour I have ever had the pleasure to witness.

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        “SHOTS FIRED!”

        (combat roll)

        “SHOTS FIRED! SHOTS FIRED! SHOTS FIRED!” (still rolling around)

        (gets up, unleashes hail of bullets at the car with his partner pretty much directly downrange)

        (slight pause, beat of silence)

        (falls backwards into the road)

        “Eaaahhh!”

        (fires several more times, now lying on his side in the road)

        "I’m hit! I’m hit!

        (fires until his gun is empty)

        (his partner asks something)

        “What?”

        “Ablbla! Abinica!” (crawling across the road now) “In the car! Ow!”

        (catches his breath, taking cover behind a different car)

        (after a while, his partner comes nearby, frantically asking if he’s okay)

        “I’m good! I feel weird! But I’m good!”

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            As funny as it sounds, my understanding is that it’s often not immediately obvious in the adrenaline of a life-threatening situation whether or not you got shot. You have to kind of check yourself over and make sure because you literally don’t feel pain.

            I’m going to be honest, there is a part of me that’s hesitant to be so so harsh on the guy, because it’s hard to say how you would react in (what you perceive to be) a life-or-death situation. It’s not unusual for people not to react well. There was one shooting video like that where the cop did something embarrassing and I had full sympathy and support for him (A woman pulled a gun on him during a traffic stop and shot at him, and he stumbled back and shot her, and he thought for a second that he might also have hit someone in a jeep full of people that was randomly stopped behind her. He was on bodycam just overall losing his shit from having shot her, not even understanding why she tried to shoot him in the first place, and thinking for a second that he might also have also hit someone in the jeep by accident. That I can have a lot of sympathy for honestly.)

            That said, you need to not have this kind of reaction if you’re a cop. In a personal capacity I have sympathy for him; he learned he doesn’t have the right stuff for what he wanted to do; this humiliating display is etched in permanently as his legacy, and he has to find a new job and he’s just lucky that no one got killed because of him. In a professional capacity, fuck him and let’s all laugh at him rolling around in the road and wailing.

            (Edit: Personally, for me the absolute peak of the comedy is when he half-empties his gun, and there’s a little beat of stillness, and then out of nowhere he just falls down and wails before starting shooting again. Again I shouldn’t laugh because someone could have been killed. But it’s fucking hilarious and I can’t see it as not so.)

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              My dad was in the military, and he got shot in the leg. He said it was the most painful thing that he’s went through so far, so I don’t know if I believe that. I bet this cop has never been shot in his life.

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      Cops are trained to say that before shooting as a psychological trick to manipulate witnesses. Your brain doesn’t perfectly record the order of events in a situation like that, so to make sense of things you’re likely to misremember one or more of the gunshots being before the “I’m hit” rather than correctly remember that the cop shot first.

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      Reading the article is hard.

      … felt a “tingliness” all along the side of his body. He then said his “legs just give out” and he fell to the ground, assuming that he had been seriously injured by something.

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    From other accounts, he had arrested a suspect, handcuffed and searched them, and put them in the back of the squad car, and apparently thought that the suspect–the one they’d searched, cuffed, and locked in the car–was shooting at him. So, in his mind, he was returning fire.

    I gotta ask - did he hit the guy in the car? Did he even his his car? Where did the bullets all end up? When you start shooting in public, you’re supposed to be responsible for each on of those pieces of lead.

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      The guy in the car was not hit, but mentally fucked up, according to a better news article I just found on Reddit a few minutes ago.

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      Saw a comment somewhere else that the guy in the police cruiser somehow didn’t get any bullets in him.

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          I just did a 2 gun match over the weekend. Gossip among the competitors was that two of the guys there were cops from the Atlanta suburbs, and that they withdrew after the first stage because it was “too hard”.

          Yeah, it was a hard match, but that was the point.

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    This is what happens if way undertrained people are hired for police work. People who think with their guns.

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      This guy isn’t undertrained! He served two tours in Iraq. This is literally the result of training, not only training but training cemented by military service.

      This guy likely has PTSD. Should not be a cop, but you’re dumb to think he’s untrained. Not only has he likely seen live combat, the guy will likely be more proficient with firearms at 80 than you are right now; if he lives that long.

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        He is undertrained in handling situations. He fired blindly without a single hint of what was going on.

        Fuck the police, this dumb fuck idiot could have killed someone. Hell, he wanted to.

        Hope the boot tastes good.

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          Hell, he wanted to.

          Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity. Turns out before this happened there were talking about a silencer that they could not find, and this is what was running in the cops head before the acorn dropped on the roof lol.

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    I’m GLAD this very Stable Man has a License to Freely Kill anyone he wants!

    -Pro Life Republicans.