• Chainweasel@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    I saw a video yesterday of cars fleeing the 2011 tsunami in Japan, I’m willing to bet those people exceeded 10mph over the posted speed limit trying to get away from the water.
    Limiting the speed of the vehicles isn’t going to improve driving skills or eliminate distractions. It isn’t going to make people drive safer, just slower. I’m sure any situation where people need to go 10+ miles over the speed limit is going to be exceedingly rare and limited to things like fleeing forest fires or tsunamis, but limiting the speed isn’t going to have a huge impact on accidents.
    It could decrease fuel consumption and emissions though 🤷‍♂️.
    But it still seems like a problem that could be solved with better enforcement.

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    10 months ago

    I am not a “muh freedom” guy, I don’t drive more than 10 over anyway. But this is just logistically a bad way to stop speeding.

    Where does my car get the current speed limit information? How and when does it update as speed limits change? Will school systems around the country have to submit a list of which days are “school days” for school zone speed limits?

    What if the GPS registers you on the 30mph road below or next to the 70mph highway, long term or even for a momentary glitch? Who is at fault if that causes you to be in an accident?

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      You don’t have to track a car to limit how fast it goes. Speed governerors exist inside gas powered cars already. All that has to be done is 1) legally require a manufacturer to limit speeds of their vehicles, and 2) prosecute them when they do not implement those restrictions. The rest is lawyers and lines of code (and lines of coke I guess)

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        You need location data to be able to determine what limit to impose.

        And I bet you anything it will be a cloud based system.

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            They don’t transmit the speed limit of the current road, and for things like construction they’ll need real-time updates.

            I’m certain they won’t want to push the entire database out to every vehicle for every update…

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              I have a hard time believing it would be impossible to wire up a device that sends out a wireless signal with the local speed limit at every speed limit sign.

              Why does it need to go to a database for it instead of have a receiver on the vehicle itself to pull data as it passes speed limit signs?

              In fact, a centralized database would likely have more problems with not being accurate or current. Have you ever dealt with government databases?

              Edit: Part of the reason the database would be trash is because speed limits are set by cities, not by the state. So in the database scenario every time a city updates their speed limit, they have to document all the zones and upload them to the database. All it takes is paperwork getting backed up a week for that to cause problems.

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                  10 months ago

                  We got a tough guy here.

                  EDIT: Also I’m fairly sure that destruction of government property is a felony and if it’s wired for this, it could easily be wired to take and send photos when tampered with, but you do you. I guess people do just hate infrastructure more than *checks notes… being spied on. Because when given an alternative without a database, they shit on it.

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      10 months ago

      I’m not saying I support the measure but I also don’t understand your statement? We curtail some freedoms to create some safety for the public. Limiting driving speed is one of them and has a massive impact on traffic fatalities in busy areas. There are other people on the road.

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      10 months ago

      To allow for vehicles to pass one another before the end of this century.

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        If they’re going fast enough that the speed limit isn’t fast enough to pass them, maybe you don’t need to pass them.

        If I’m stuck behind a tractor on the road, they’re probably going 15 mph and I can easily pass them by just going the speed limit. If you’re stuck behind someone going 50 in a 55, tough luck. It’s not like you’re losing that much time anyway.

        You save like 3 minutes over 30 miles. It’s nothing. People just think it’s so much faster because they don’t do the math.

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            🙄 That leapfrog shit where you zip in and out of crawling traffic every time there’s a gap is dangerous and people shouldn’t do it in the first place. If traffic is super slow then the speed limit is easily fast enough to pass anyway.

            Also, it shouldn’t be your job to speed to make up for bad traffic. That’s a failure of public policy and engineering. We should fix that.

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              There are a number of scenarios where one might do 10+ over the speed limit to get around someone on the highway that does not involve the leap-frogging-in-crawling-traffic maneuver you’re referring to.

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                Yeah, you might want to get around them, but only to save a couple of minutes. If someone is going slow enough for me to give a shit, the speed limit is enough to pass. Otherwise, tough luck, you have to go 50 in a 55

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          10 months ago

          Not being able to pass a slow car just angers people.

          People who are angry about the slow car are probably going to ride their ass.

          People riding other people’s ass don’t have enough following distance to react to an emergency brake.

          Now there’s an accident and traffic comes to a half.

          People coming up from behind are in the same scenario.

          Now there’s a pileup.

          Congrats! You’ve now made the roads less safe.

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            10 months ago

            And pileups never happen when people speed 🙄

            You know what? You’re right.

            Let’s ban private car ownership.

            • fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.world
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              10 months ago

              Let’s ban private car ownership.

              Or even better, just create viable public transportation, and discourage the plague of suburbia. Let the people who want to drive drive. And the people who only see it as a means to get from point A to B out of cars.

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                Except those people who want to drive have a huge burden on society for basically no reason. Fuck em. Nobody gets to drive.