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Canada to ban the Flipper Zero to stop surge in car thefts::The Canadian government plans to ban the Flipper Zero and similar devices after tagging them as tools thieves can use to steal cars.
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Oh shit, I wanted to steal a car but now because of this ban it will be illegal, how bad.
Yeah, since we can’t stop murderers, we should do nothing about it.
The thing we should do is to hold car manufacturers accountable for neglecting security in cars.
Banning flipper is exactly that- doing nothing- because you can’t actually use one to steal a car.
Let’s establish an international anti-murder day. It won’t save anyone, but at least we did SOMETHING!
Flipper Zero can’t be used to hijack any car, specifically the ones produced after the 1990s, since their security systems have rolling codes
So actually doing nothing.
God I love these shit analogies.
Here’s the thing: banning murder hurts absolutely no one and accomplishes a lot.
Banning Flipper Zero, however they decide to do it, hurts hobbyists and helps no one.
See how your analogy is the opposite of reality?
If you truly want to solve something then you have to make some draconian-like laws and enforce it with rigorous effort. Sometimes the harshest measures are the safest measures.
Now tell everyone how banning a device which can’t be used for car thefts, will somehow help with car thefts.
I think we’d all like to know.
Or, you know, it’s incredibly stupid to ban. But what do I know? Other than that you can’t use a flipper to steal a car of course.
Ok PolPot
Ah, thank you!🥰
“If you want to stop murders just ban kitchen knives.” --canadian politicians
5 years later:
“If you want to stop murders just ban scissors.”
- canadian politicians
They should really try banning car theft, it’s a lot more direct and to the point.
But at least they can persecute tinkerers and cyber security professionals while the criminals continue to steal cars.
It’s win-win for the POS in law enforcement. They create more crime stats for themselves to ensure their increased funding, and the criminals continue stealing cars.
Even better, tinkerers and cyber security professionals are easy to find and there’s a much lower chance of them fighting back compared to actual car thieves so it’s very low risk for the police. They get to be lazy and safe while padding their numbers, all their favorite things at once.
Never heard of these devices but now I kinda want one.
streisand effect they are going to be sold out everywhere now
They already were.
People are cutting locks so we should ban long arm metal snips and angle grinders.
Go for the source, ban the locks
That’s all Trudeau has been good for, for years, attempting to appear to do something about a problem but never, never, ever, actually fixing anything, but also inconveniencing/ removing rights or making criminals out of ancillary people to the actual issue.
Um… You don’t even need the flipper zero to steal a car. I’m not even sure it’s strong enough to emulate the key.
Pretty sure you can’t even use the Flipper in the way thieves are using cheap alibaba radio amplifiers on the proximity fobs that people keep near their front door…
What is a flipper zero?
It has a bunch of abilities, but the most important one is that it can recieve and transmit radio signals that can trick devices like remote door locks and garage door openers into thinking that a key was pressed to open them, but only if they don’t have proper security systems set up. It’s built for penetration testing on systems to see how secure they are
I still don’t understand
The Flipper Zero is a portable and programmable pen-testing tool that helps experiment with and debug various hardware and digital devices over multiple protocols, including RFID, radio, NFC, infrared, and Bluetooth.
It’s basically a 2 way radio with tools for those who like to mess with the radio spectrum. That’s the most simple explanation I can make for such a device.
Pen-testing is short for penetration testing. Which is testing if you can break into the things. Like a locked office or a computer system, etc. Legally, it’s done to find flaws that need to be fixed before they get used nefariously.
Pen testing techniques and tools are essentially break in tools. In this case, a tool for mimicking car key fobs and the wireless signals they send to the car.
Good thing I ordered one a couple days ago
This has made me think that I should order one too. Must be a good tool if it needs to be made illegal.
You can break into thirty year old cars!
How hard would it be to make a similar device?
Politicians being stupid and thick, as usual.
This can be replicated with off-the-shelf components and readily available software. The real issue is the low security of cars.
Also, a similar device with better capabilities is about to hit the market.
Also, a similar device with better capabilities is about to hit the market.
What’s it called?
Might as well ban brains too, you need that to steal a car.
