Canada to ban the Flipper Zero to stop surge in car thefts::The Canadian government plans to ban the Flipper Zero and similar devices after tagging them as tools thieves can use to steal cars.

        • MindSkipperBro12@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          0
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          9 months ago

          If you truly want to solve something then you have to make some draconian-like laws and enforce it with rigorous effort. Sometimes the harshest measures are the safest measures.

          • CurbsTickle@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            9 months ago

            Now tell everyone how banning a device which can’t be used for car thefts, will somehow help with car thefts.

            I think we’d all like to know.

            Or, you know, it’s incredibly stupid to ban. But what do I know? Other than that you can’t use a flipper to steal a car of course.

      • tias@discuss.tchncs.de
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        9 months ago

        The thing we should do is to hold car manufacturers accountable for neglecting security in cars.

      • deafboy@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        9 months ago

        Let’s establish an international anti-murder day. It won’t save anyone, but at least we did SOMETHING!

      • edric@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        9 months ago

        Flipper Zero can’t be used to hijack any car, specifically the ones produced after the 1990s, since their security systems have rolling codes

        So actually doing nothing.

    • WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      edit-2
      9 months ago

      But at least they can persecute tinkerers and cyber security professionals while the criminals continue to steal cars.

      It’s win-win for the POS in law enforcement. They create more crime stats for themselves to ensure their increased funding, and the criminals continue stealing cars.

      • orclev@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        9 months ago

        Even better, tinkerers and cyber security professionals are easy to find and there’s a much lower chance of them fighting back compared to actual car thieves so it’s very low risk for the police. They get to be lazy and safe while padding their numbers, all their favorite things at once.

  • Shenanigore@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    edit-2
    9 months ago

    That’s all Trudeau has been good for, for years, attempting to appear to do something about a problem but never, never, ever, actually fixing anything, but also inconveniencing/ removing rights or making criminals out of ancillary people to the actual issue.

    • krigo666@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      edit-2
      9 months ago

      Politicians being stupid and thick, as usual.

      This can be replicated with off-the-shelf components and readily available software. The real issue is the low security of cars.

      Also, a similar device with better capabilities is about to hit the market.

      • Corroded@leminal.space
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        9 months ago

        Also, a similar device with better capabilities is about to hit the market.

        What’s it called?

    • ilost7489@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      9 months ago

      It has a bunch of abilities, but the most important one is that it can recieve and transmit radio signals that can trick devices like remote door locks and garage door openers into thinking that a key was pressed to open them, but only if they don’t have proper security systems set up. It’s built for penetration testing on systems to see how secure they are

    • moistclump@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      9 months ago

      I still don’t understand

      The Flipper Zero is a portable and programmable pen-testing tool that helps experiment with and debug various hardware and digital devices over multiple protocols, including RFID, radio, NFC, infrared, and Bluetooth.

      • Psythik@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        9 months ago

        It’s basically a 2 way radio with tools for those who like to mess with the radio spectrum. That’s the most simple explanation I can make for such a device.

      • wunami@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        edit-2
        9 months ago

        Pen-testing is short for penetration testing. Which is testing if you can break into the things. Like a locked office or a computer system, etc. Legally, it’s done to find flaws that need to be fixed before they get used nefariously.

        Pen testing techniques and tools are essentially break in tools. In this case, a tool for mimicking car key fobs and the wireless signals they send to the car.

  • jaschen@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    9 months ago

    Um… You don’t even need the flipper zero to steal a car. I’m not even sure it’s strong enough to emulate the key.

    • banneryear1868@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      9 months ago

      Pretty sure you can’t even use the Flipper in the way thieves are using cheap alibaba radio amplifiers on the proximity fobs that people keep near their front door…