• blahsay@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    I thought treating people differently based on race was to be avoided? There’s no good racism right?

    Wouldn’t a better and fairer idea be to give people a hand up based on economic issues?

    You can’t tell if someone has experienced racial discrimination based on the race they ascribe to (ask Megan markle).

    However you can definitely (and without bias) tell someone is going to be disadvantaged if they grew up in a poor neighbourhood, neither parent earned much, no family history of higher education etc etc.

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      8 months ago

      You’re talking about affirmative action, this is about DEI.

      I thought treating people differently based on race was to be avoided? There’s no good racism right?

      On the very slim chance you’re asking in good faith, I’ll answer your question.

      Suppose we were playing poker, and I was cheating the whole time. After a long time, and with almost all the chips, I finally agree not to cheat anymore and play the game “with the same rules for everybody, going forward”. That’s fair, right?

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    9 months ago

    D.E.I. programs explicitly treat people differently based on race. Such programs have no place in modern society.

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        9 months ago

        “We can’t stop doing X as long as we’re still doing X” doesn’t exactly make much sense either.

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            9 months ago

            X, in this case, is “treating people differently based on race.”

            I would love if we were to do un-X.

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                9 months ago

                So now DEI programs are only for people of colour?

                Why not just “disadvantaged people”? That takes race out of the equation entirely, and everyone is satisfied. Unless excluding disadvantaged people of specific races or genders or whatever is actually the point.

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                  9 months ago

                  Extend to gender, ethnicity, LGBTQ, whatever…the key is the “systematically.” We can’t assess relative (dis)advantage at an individual level, but we can recognize it at a systemic level and develop programs that counter it systemically.