A fellow mod informed me that about it as I was laying in bed. Reddit sent a message to the mod team and after 1 hour demoded me. I didn’t even had time to see it, never-mind respond to it.

Looks like we rattled reddit enough to start shooting. There goes all that fancy talk about our protest not affecting them much.

Just FYI for now. It’s late here so I’ll see how we proceed tomorrow.

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    This could not be any funnier. Please reddit, take legal control of the piracy subreddit, right as you take the experienced mod team out. I’m sure everything will go fantastic.

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    Haha what the fuck I really did NOT think they would do that to r/piracy of all things. Ah well fuck them and their shitty IPO. I‘m here with you guys for good, the structure of the fediverse suits our purposes and community better anyway.

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      I would imagine that can lead to legal troubles endorsing r/piracy willingly?

      Accepting it is one thing, but forcing it to open is entirely different.

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        I would imagine too, but who knows, there is a different set of rules for companies and the rich.

        Now that Reddit is asserting direct control over it, maybe they‘ll turn it into an anti-piracy sub to prevent any legal trouble.

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    "In analyzing the availability of the immunity offered by Section 230, courts generally apply a three-prong test. A defendant must satisfy each of the three prongs to gain the benefit of the immunity:

    1. The defendant must be a “provider or user” of an “interactive computer service”.
    2. The cause of action asserted by the plaintiff must treat the defendant as the “publisher or speaker” of the harmful information at issue.

    3. The information must be “provided by another information content provider”, i.e., the defendant must not be the “information content provider” of the harmful information at issue."

    If Reddit the company is now picking and choosing who approves or blocks harmful information, are they an information content provider now? Are they liable if their chosen mods allow harmful content?

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    Obvious that this is automated and will be going out to all subs. They definitely wouldn’t go to bat to keep a piracy sub open, unless they’re even dumber than I thought.

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    Whenever you see inserted words, please imagine an awkwardly moving but very colorful parrot squawking it.

    The ability to find and make these connections prrrofits is incredibly important to many people ourrr sharrreholders, and ensuring that active communities are able to remain [a] stable and active (and open) source of prrrofits is very important forrr us!

    Our goal here is to work with the existing mod team to find a path forward into exile and make sure your subreddit is usable for the community company which makes its home monnney here.

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    Make sure you remove any and all bots created, and delete all the custom work you did. Reddit can probably restore it, but it’ll take them time and effort to do so.

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      This needs so much more noise! If only some of us were part of major news channels, more shareholders need to know now that reddit is in IPO process. It’ll hurt bad.

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    1: Funny we were all in here like two days ago saying “they’ll probably be happy to have the piracy sub gone”

    2: Any member of the existing mod team that helps them is a fucking scab

    3: Everyone else has made a good point about some potential liability issues of reddit the corporation wresting control of the piracy subreddit into their own hands

    4: There are so many layers of irony with a corporation saying people need to have access to the community that tells them how to commit copyright infringement and then forcing that information into the open despite what its caretakers wish.

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    If reddit decides to moderate the Piracy subreddit directly, does that mean that they’ll be responsible to respond to DMCA requests? If so, that’s going to be a shitshow all in itself.

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      They are. That’s why they’re banning subs that are sharing links. R/piracy doesn’t allow the sharing of direct links

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    Reopen with the new rules: All posts must relate to the golden age of piracy!

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        I hope lemmy won’t die month later.

        That’s literally impossible! An instance may go down, but it will stay cached.

        not enough. the big problem with activitypub/fediverse/mastodon/pleroma/lemmy is the lack of “nomadic identities”, which would allow full replication of my account on any instance.

        without nomadic identities, you have the same vendor-lockin bullshit as with reddit/twitter/facebook: when they close your account, your content is gone. when a lemmy-instance closes your account, your content is gone.

        see also: https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nostr#the-problem-with-mastodon-and-similar-programs

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          This is not a simple problem to solve and it exists nowhere online. The fediverse however affords at least way more control than reddit or any forum where they can do the same and you have no options whatsoever

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            This is not a simple problem to solve and it exists nowhere online.

            it is a solved problem. there are multiple implementations of the nostr protocol. nostr is newer than activitypub, so its less mature, but certainly a better foundation to build upon, ie more future-proof. nostr is similar to bittorrent: anyone can seed my content, and recipients can verify my content with my public key.

            The fediverse however affords at least way more control than reddit or any forum where they can do the same and you have no options whatsoever

            more control for admins, but not more control for users. i trust nobody, no admins, no moderators. sure, there are ways to archive and replicate an activitypub instance (just like reddit/twitter/facebook), but it is not a fundamental property of activitypub.

            conspiracy ahead: these federated tools (activitypub, matrix chat) are “popular” because they enable censorship. nostr is promising censorship-resistance, but its not quite there yet.

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              I checked nosr. It’s very misguided. It’s anti-spam strategy is wishful thinking. I wish them best of luck, but my belief is that it will crash and burn due to trying to fix something unfixable.

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                It’s anti-spam strategy is wishful thinking.

                huh? relays can choose to block content.

                my belief is that it will crash and burn due to trying to fix something unfixable.

                abuse of power is fixable through nomadic identities and signatures. your lemmy instance will “crash and burn” when you decide to pull the plug. its funny to watch people trying “more of the same”, naively hoping for the best with every iteration.

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                  relays can choose to block content.

                  This is so naive I don’t even know where to start. But it’s ok, I don’t need to convince you. Reality will do it for me anyway.