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I hope Firefox implements a great and robust tab grouping feature. Because they used to have one that worked beautifully.
Firefox used to have Panorama view, which was a way to group tabs with a nice visual interface. …and they removed it because not enough people were using it.
…Well if you stopped removing useful and perfectly functional features, maybe you wouldn’t need to rebuild them later when it turns out people do want that feature, huh, Mozilla?
There’s an extension that reimplements Panorama and it kinda sorta works like it used to.
THIS, im using n recommend it to everyone
Make sure it works for a few days first. Sometimes extensions that hide tabs from the tab bar can have unforeseen consequences.
Firefox had tab grouping first. Before Chrome. And then it broke support for it when they did the add-ons overhaul. I’m surprised bringing it back wasn’t a high priority…
I remember those days. I was so sad when it went away.
IIRC the old tab groups feature was eventually removed because telemetry showed that only very few people used it…
That’s because us power users know to turn the telemetry off and also have it blocked on our network.
Right, but then you shouldn’t be shocked to find out that a feature was removed because nobody seemed to be using it.
No, I expect Mozilla to know their market and use other means (like focus groups or surveys or something) to figure out which features are actually popular, instead of lazily using a bad metric.
Mozilla knows their market. Because of said telemetry.
How do you think that works? For any other app?
Hint:
(like focus groups or surveys or something)
Not like this. Because they have both shown to be absolutely terrible for this general market preference research.
Did you miss the part of the conversation where folks were pointing out that lots of users turn the telemetry off?
Your reply is as tone-deaf and non-responsive as sticking your fingers in your ears and yelling “nuh uh!” like a toddler.
If you want to be persuasive you’ve got to prove that the telemetry is somehow useful in spite of many users turning it off, and you’ve done absolutely fuck-all to argue that.
You are committing the same mistake as you accuse me of:
many users turning it off
[citation needed] [how many?]
For all you know, maybe the 15 very vocal users in here are the only ones who turn it off. Or do we know that many users do it? How many? 5%? 50%? 95%?
It didn’t help that they hid the button in the customize menu and made the feature not discoverable.
Thank Christ.
Can they also be synced container tabs Mozilla? As in synced across devices. I know there’s a container tabs add on you can get, but it doesn’t sync from my laptop to my desktop to my phone. Would be awesome if they did so natively.
While you’re at it, could you add tree style tabs natively in Firefox? Pretty please, with cream on top.
Container tabs do sync in recent versions of firefox
https://blog.mozilla.org/security/2020/02/06/multi-account-containers-sync/
Finally. Now my thousands of tabs will be hidden behind hundreds of tabs groups!
I really don’t understand people who don’t close tabs. I start with a fresh browser window multiple times per day.
We start with a fresh browser window multiple times per day too. Except we also have multiple other windows of tabs minimized already.
This reminds me that I once “accidentally” closed about half of those windows - each ~200 tabs - of my then GF. Took her over a month to notice. Tells you all about how useful tab hoarding actually is.
I don’t have enough time in the day or week or month or year to do everything I want to, so I keep my tabs open until I chip away at them one at a time. It takes a long time, but it doesn’t mean that the tabs aren’t useful to me and won’t remain useful months later.
That’s me with YouTube videos, sometimes I would see a video on recommended that interests me but don’t have time to watch it immediately, I have to open it on a new tab otherwise I would never find it again. Sometimes it takes me days to find the time to watch it.
You can add interested videos to playlist “Watch later” and it will available on all devices with your account
I don’t log in to YT to watch any videos, I alao use Newpipe and Stube sans account. Grouping them in Tabs to get to is great for me.
You might still need those tabs though. You probably don’t, but you might.
You’re right, I don’t. And since browsers come with this really neat feature called “history”, it’s not like I couldn’t trivially re-open them again as needed.
It’s far easier to have your history cluttered than you might think, and then finding the sites that you need or might need becomes harder.
Exactly. Whereas my 1000+ semi-ordered tabs are way less cluttered.
Fucking took them long enough
See for yourself, it has almost 3,000 votes now. 👇
lol… some features requests on Android have many more votes and are being ignored by Google… like ad-hoc Wi-Fi
What’s Ad-Hoc WiFi?
Please give me vertical tabs to I can switch to FF
Coincidentally, they are working on that too
There are Extensions to do that if you want.
They require a lot of tinkering for a half-arsed result. Built in vertical tabs like in Vivaldi or edge work and feel much better with just a single setting.
Just use Tree Style Tab
I’m away from my PC so I can’t name it but there’s another plugin similar to Tree Style Tabs. The creator claims that TST takes up a lot of resources. I do notice Firefox taking a lot of CPU/mem but that’s probably my fault. I’ve tried both and either works well.
Might be talking about Sidebery. I like them both and switch back and forth
about time! hoping for built-in vertical tabs some time soon as well 👀
YESSSSSSSSSSSS
So we’re just going to enable these people with tab hoarding issues?
Grouping tabs just naturally fits so many computer workflows though. I’m often working on multiple things at a time and tab groups help me keep it all organized.
Yeah of course, but that’s why all browsers - AFAIK - allow you to open new windows not just new tabs. This naturally groups tabs into contexts. In other words, this very feature is implemented already.
But in a new window i don’t have the 10-20 pinned tabs that I jump to very often, having tab groups helps in this regard.
