I miss the old Twitter when I saw the stupid X animation.
Twitter X is Elon Musk’s world. Pretty soon he’ll have so much control over his platform that he can practically cron kings and manipulate outcomes to fit his personal political agenda. And don’t even get me started on his whole stupid “X the everything app bullshit.
The only everything app that has succeeded so far is WeChat in China. But it’s apparently a surveillance app for the masses by the government. Seriously, why the hell would I want to link my social media account with my bank account and even my government ID? What’s the benefit in that?
I’d rather keep the digital me disconnected to the real me.
The name is embarrassing and shows the intellect of someone we thought were intelligent but is just another self absorbed little boy craving for attention.
Musk is the definition of a man child.
He is such a fuckin loser.
I hope he gets sued by the organization that made that font. I don’t think he was allowed to use it.
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Unicode is an encoding… A font defines how those codes are rendered.
No matter what Musk does, he continues to bleed users and advertisers.
It may not be going as fast as we like but the ship continues to take on water.
fire everyone + break everything = the everything app
“The everything app”… that can’t even do basic social media correctly. Can it just die already?
The everything appo ? Even whore aervice ?
Reminds me of the old OS X Leopard welcome animation.
That was so goddamn cool at the time. The whole install experience.
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Interesting, it was released in 2011.
Oh cool. An animated logo… wow how tech-like…
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Closed source? Cringe.
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Does it even have a web version? It doesn’t seem to be available for my Linux distro of choice, jumping through hoops to install some proprietary app would make it a massive fail.
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Signal is open sourced, but is it safe? No, cuz they have a cloud to keep all data. And cloud is just another computer…
You can self host it, not that I would but if you need more privacy.
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Cryptographers probably would know that and would have spoken up. Because it’s open source. But sure, shill for closed source and talk shit about the reverse.
What’s wrong with Mastodon? It’s already established.
Obviously nothing’s wrong with mastodon, but I’m digging the p2p sharing and the encryption aspects of WireMin. Im personally bored with Mastodon, and the apps for FireFish kinda suck right now.
Edit: I also don’t really care about something being established or not, but that’s just how I am. WireMin could turn out to be my best bet at getting friends off of “them x pills”
By “established” what I really mean is it’s already gone through the difficult part (i.e. while it’s not dominant I think it’s passed most of the hurdles that most attempted platforms have failed at). If something’s going to do better than Mastodon, it’s going to have to have something that people want that Mastodon doesn’t have, which I’m not seeing here, but maybe I’m wrong.
I’m personally using a modded version of the official mastodon app called Moshitodon with my firefish account, not perfect and missing firefish-only features but it works
I’ll probably come back around when the official firefish mobile app drops.
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This means instance owners on Mastodon have certain privileges and can ban users.
Sure, but since anyone can own a mastodon instance this isn’t unjust.
Then where are your audience?
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WireMin is kinda dope, thanks for the suggestion
Elon got the idea from China’s WeChat. Elon loves him some despots.
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Encryption, peer to peer file sharing, private and public group chats, I think you can even send crypto (if that’s your thing, I’m over it for now). It’s pretty neat so far, but you can tell that it’s userbase is still small.
It’s not just the data, it’s also about getting a cut of any monetary interactions, essentially the Visa/MasterCard model. The company holding the “everything” app for a given region has an incredible potential to earn money.
Wanting to be the master of data when Microsoft, Google, Apple, and Meta exist is cute :)
Wether it’s centralised isn’t really the main issue with these platforms. It’s their For-profit nature. Running a social platform in a for profit manner, is incredibly hard to do - only one company has been known to succeed, YouTube… and they stopped reporting their earnings in 2015, so no one can tell if it’s still profitable or not.
If you are a not for profit company trying to create a social platform, you’ve got more of a chance of it working. However if you’re not for profit doing this, you need to release the soource code. That way if you decide to restructure into a for profit entity we can fork it and save said platform.
Decentralization is the result of the requirements of financing large userbase not for profit platforms in a sustainable way - it actively spreads the cost load across multiple not for profit servers. Allowing donations to be the income driver of the platform right from the beginning. Being not for profit requires that you only ever aim to cover the costs of running the servers - it doesn’t require you to offer any additional services in order to increase revenue, or systems in order to lock people in.
The fact that the data is spread across this server network, inherently making data breaches worth somewhat less than a megalithic platform is literally just an unintended side benefit, despite the fact it’s a little bit mitigated as a result of caching requirements.
The thing is, a for-profit platform can look at this financing model and try to twist it to their moneymaking advantage - just look at bluesky. It gets nonprofits to host services, while keeping a tight grip on the algorithms, by providing a library of them to “choose” - the source code is closed, as a result it’s nearly impossible to tell if these servers are reporting analytics and data back to the central service (covered by the centralised algorithm provider and sign up system) for data collection and data sales.
A decentralized platform like that, allows the company to offload hosting costs by taking advantage of independent nonprofits, while also getting to make a huge profit by selling a fucktonne of data mined from these servers.
Also it removes the need for advertising providers be on the platform, which is a benifit not only because people don’t like ads, but also because advertising companies are fickle and very hard to meet their brand safety demands and retain them. Advertising revenue is rarely stable or reliable.
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But it is not the everything app?
I think a lot of people hear “everything app” and it sounds kind of magical but this is actually a specific category of app already, and it mostly means Payments App+ Restaurant and Convenience Delivery App + Rideshare App.
An example is Careem, which serves the Dubai market only.
You’re totally correct that X is not one of these Apps. Even by this more constrained definition.
Uber is already 2/3 of the way to this in a dominant way with Uber and Uber Eats in one app. Both of those work very well and have already for years. Adding personal payments would probably mean lights out for anyone else with foolish “everything app” ambitions.
Musk is 0/3 of the way there. The ONLY thing he has has to work with is an installed base of users. A large number of people have this app on their phone and have an account. That is something. But he still has to create, well, everything to have an “everything” app, which, as I’ve already covered above, won’t do everything.
The installed base of logged in users is also less valuable than you might imagine because to do payments and delivery is also going to require everyone to enter bank info and home address and those are big asks just in terms of user effort but also privacy.
So good fucking luck, Elon. Being a media company driven by ads sucks and I don’t blame him for wanting out but he’s chosen the most expensive possible path to becoming Careem that I could imagine. I’m just a tech middle manager but I could have given him better corp strategy advice than this.
yet?
Maybe, but it is not even the app it was so the trend is going in the wrong direction to be everything.
Sure. My VR theme park is not the biggest in the Metaverse yet either. Maybe one day.
Can you really do everything with this app, or is it basically like Twitter?
I don’t want to do everything with this app or any app. An everything app means monopoly and manipulation.
It also means an eventual failure
Reminds me on the 2000 https://www.zombo.com/ joke
At the moment it’s just reskinned twitter, eventually he wants to turn it into Facebook with chat, calls, payments and such I guess.
Not even reskinned, just with a stupid new logo
Yeah if this is his plan it’s clear he hasn’t thought for a second about why 99% of the world would even want to replace their other apps with this mess, and that would been true even if he never gave anyone reason to hate him personally, which he’s done in spades.
It’s pathetic how obvious it is that it will fail hard.
It’s gonna be like yahoo.com circa 2012. Stocks, banks, messaging, email, news etc.
As ever, “we’re going to do everything” neatly translates in to “we’re going to do everything poorly”.
I would wipe my butt with the everything-app, but I doubt It will ever offer this service.
It will come with 3 seashells.
You need to use your phone with the app open for that service.
Reminds me of the welcome video for Mac OS X Snow leopard
The everything app, eh?
So you can manage your Tesla vehicle and Powerwall home battery and Tesla Solar Roof from it, surely?
