It’s real. After all those years.

  • FrankTheHealer@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Im not interested unless it has; Hall effect thumb sticks to reduce stick drift

    An OLED screen

    Backwards compatibility with Switch 1 games.

    A headphone jack that allows game chat and game audio

    And is designed to be easily repaired, like not having tons of adhesive, uncommon screw types etc

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      The ‘Switch 2’ having a camera for literally no reason is extremely on-brand for Nintendo, so I kind of believe it.

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      I love it when my connected and likely not security hardened devices needlessly include components that would be valuable to compromise.

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        If the Switch 2’s OS is anything like the Switch’s current revision of Horizon, it’s an extremely hardened OS. They’ve done a surprisingly good job plugging software holes.

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        On the bright side, in a few years it will be fun to attempt photography on like how people use the DSi camera. It’s not much, but it’s something 🤷

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        3DS advertised AR from the get-go, even coming with a set of cards and built-in games to show it off. Never ended up being anything more than a neat tech demo that people forgot about almost immediately. Haven’t really seen anything to make me think people are more interested in it now, over a decade later.

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          VR headsets and the research behind them have made it possible to accurately track the position of the device with very little processing cost from a single camera. Additional cameras are simply for occlusion and field of view at this point. A coupled depth sensor handles any needed resolution of positional conflicts between real world objects and digital objects.

          That tech wasn’t there for 3DS, even with 2 cameras it wasn’t stable or accurate, and it was pretty low res and low angle, and it couldn’t tell if the digital content should be occluded by real world objects at it’s perceived depth. Plus there are actual AR games now already established, and the framework and proof of concept to easily on-board new ones. Also, by the time the Switch 2 is released, the mainstream AR headsets and content will be even more established. Currently the best AR content is either on expensive headsets or in limited form on iPhones. But in less than a month the Quest 3 is out, an accessible mixed reality headset. It will have been out for a while by the time the switch 2 would come out.

          This is very much one of the directions gaming is going. It doesn’t have to replace all gaming, and never will. But it will be a pretty big part of gaming. Especially once there is enough public trust behind it for people to play augmented reality games outdoors. Us nerds already do so, we know we won’t walk out into traffic even if the headset malfunctions. But the hypothetical “everyman” is apparently worried that they might? That’s just not how anything would work… but whatever. It’s safer than playing a phone game and wearing headphones, since letting the real world in and paying attention to both is the whole point, sight and sound.

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            You’re absolutely right about VR. But I don’t think AR is ever going to be that big. There just isn’t as much of a point in mixing the real world with artificial elements. The only reason to do so is to get information that can’t be emulated as well for VR. As VR gets better, AR gets more redundant. AR of the style we see on phones (like pokemon go) is even more pointless. AR will stick around for virtual desktops and smart glasses and the like, but for gaming it will always be a gimmick.

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      The fact that I had to open an app on my phone for voice chat meant that I never ever used voice chat.
      I don’t really care if the next Nintendo console has a camera. But I extremely do not want to be forced to use some app on my phone to play the game on my Switch.

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      Eh, a camera can be useful, on the 3DS it’s great for scanning a QR code rather then manually entering a url.

      And really at this point why not throw a camera on the Switch 2? The parts for a cellphone camera is like what… a couple bucks?

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    Please backwards compatible, please OLED, please enough power to 720p60fps everything natively (no upscaling, cause that sucks on such low res, Idm 4k upscaling).

    1080p60fps on portable would be a dream but I‘m not that delusional.

    I‘d also be hyped if they could offer joycons that make it usable for extended amounts of time in portable without destroying my hands or having to rely on third party cases.

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      Can we add a cheaper non-portable option to the wishlist? I don’t like paying for a screen or battery or junky mobile controllers that I will never use.

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        This is exactly where I’m at. I don’t think my switch has left the dock on purpose since I bought it, what a waste of resources.

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            No judgement from me, but I do try to pay folks for their stuff if I can afford it and it’s available in the market

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              ? I buy all my games and rip them using my launch Switch. I then enjoy playing them in 4k60fps instead of using the dock, with the saves synced via wifi so I can go back to handheld after.

              Emulation does NOT = piracy for fucks sake.

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    My only wish for this console, is that it doesn’t launch with an SoC, that’s already a year outdated, by the time the thing is announced

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      Literally impossible since SoC vendors literally can’t deliver working pre-production chips for development work

      I mean, they say they do, but they really don’t

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      Nintendo is going to want a console they can keep standardized for a while without hitting hardware limits early. It’s one of the only major flaws of the Switch, and while it’s not entirely their fault, they know the type of direction devs want to move in. IMHO they will have listened in this regard.

      I don’t expect it will run “on par with PS5” as some rumors have suggested, though.

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        The PS5 is the size of a small boat. The only way Nintendo can release a portable console that matches it would be if it came in a wheelbarrow.

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          But the ps5 plays games in 4k .if i remember correctly 4k requires 16x compute power compared to 1080p ( on the gpu side ). So with dlss from 720p to 1080p it might be possible to match 4k ps5 . Alghtough it might be immposible with the games bound by cpu , unlike the ps4/xbox one generation the consoles this time dont have a completly dogshit CPU from the get go.

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        Yeah I agree, the Switch family in general are mostly meant to play official games like Zelda, DK and Mario whose older incarnations were also designed for other small consoles that ran on battery power, and not-so-demanding third-party games that can be played without connection to power like Minecraft BE. They’re like a modern DS with a bigger screen that you can connect to a TV and play with detachable controllers, and never pretended to be anything more.

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      That would be nice, but it’s Nintendo so it probably will be old by the time it comes out.

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    Cool! Despite its age, I’m still loving the Switch. Best all around library of consistently good games, at least single/local multiplayer.