• TokenBoomer@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    You’re correct. This applies to other countries America is doing this to, like Venezuela. There is a reason they have borders and different names. Because they a law unto themselves. Sovereign.

    • deft@ttrpg.network
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      1 year ago

      So Iranians trying to subvert American law is different though? Like they intentionally moved the funds through numerous companies to disguise it. Also using USD, property of the US government.

      That has nothing to do with the idea of sovereignty?

      Hypocrite.

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        1 year ago

        Americans just can’t stop trying to find ways to fuck people over oil

        Maybe its time for the world to ban all US-owned ships in their waters

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          1 year ago

          Russia invaded Ukraine. China is literally waging a genocide. Saudi Arabia murdered Khashoggi in an embassy. Iran literally sprayed live ammunition into crowds last year because their citizens didn’t want their rule anymore.

          But the US took oil that was meant to fund militant groups who intentionally did things to disguise the transaction because they knew it was illegal.

          Sure kiddo

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            1 year ago

            No, the US spent 20 years killing various random Middle Easterners and several decades killing democratic elections and voters in central and South America.

            And now they’re trying to start a war with China over…factories in Taiwan which were oart of the great capitalist plan to remove jobs from the US and send them elsewhere so labor laws wouldnt apply.

            You dont grasp basic jusrisdiction. If that “US-owned” (read: private equity/ hedge fund owned) ship is used for nefarious purposes outside of US waters then tough fucking titty, you have no jusrisdiction. You arrest the hedge funders.

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              1 year ago

              was with you until your dumbass said the US is trying to start a war with China. Fat wrong sis.

              Also the middle east is a religious backwards shit hole and while American imperialism and the reasoning for it was lies and wrong, doesn’t change the fact the middle east is ruled by blood money oil tycoons and religious psychopaths.

              But no. The fact they tried to disguise their money handling is fact enough, they were attempting to evade the US and failed because they knew they were doing something that would cause the US to act because it was under US jurisdiction sorry sis.

              • IHaveTwoCows@lemm.ee
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                1 year ago

                So then you agree that US warships should not be in the South China Sea because that isnt their jurisdiction.

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                  1 year ago

                  Nah China doesn’t own it, also fuck China and fuck you spreading propaganda that China owns it, they don’t.

                  Taiwan, Philippines, Japan all allow American vessels in THEIR jurisdiction.

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          1 year ago

          You see, America owns everything, everywhere, at any time. Everyone is subject to US laws, like an empire. Oh wait…

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            1 year ago

            Why did they try to hide these transactions then?

            Admittance of guilt. Moron

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              1 year ago

              The same reason bootleggers smuggled alcohol during Prohibition. Or the same reason reason abolitionists smuggled slaves with the Underground Railroad. But a moron wouldn’t understand analogies. You clearly don’t have the capacity to comprehend the logic. Mendacity only works in small groups. Your reasoning might sway the masses, for a time. But truth will always win in the end, because lies have no foundation in society.

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          1 year ago

          Literally clear as day lol they incriminated themselves by trying to hide the transaction. They even knew what they were doing was illegal, why can’t you accept that?

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            1 year ago

            This is eristic. Your obstinacy displays a stunted intellect. Try reading history and moral philosophy. Then get back to me. You’re wasting my time.

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                1 year ago

                I gave the reason. Sanctions are one way bucko, only enforceable through power. But you’re okay with that because it’s your team. Grow up.

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                  1 year ago

                  you’re over here crying about sovereignty but this is deeply tied in the US and Iran was literally trying to scam

                  sucks to suck, sorry you’re wrong. suck it up