But that’s irrelevant if the information they have is wrong (meaning the information they think they have from the Bible).
Otherwise we could just as easily say that science is a problem because flat earthers say they use science, which they do claim but we know their knowledge is science is wrong.
The problem with religion is that it’s not objective. You can’t argue that they’re wrong if they’re invoking a passage that requires interpretation. And if they believe god is supporting them in their journey, which again can’t be refuted, there is not much you can say to stop them.
I disagree. There are many things in the Bible that are very clear. The idea that the Bible requires interpretation that can be variable is not true. The issue is that you need to read the entire Bible first. Unfortunately most people take bits and pieces out of context as proof for or against something, and they often never question it further because it supports their existing worldview.
And if they believe god is supporting them in their journey, which again can’t be refuted, there is not much you can say to stop them.
Except the Bible shows that God’s people should not be involved in politics. There’s no getting around that one.
You are inherently wrong, as clearly there are quite a few christians who disagree with you. I’d wager most. No amount of no true scotsman will get around the fact that this is an ideology perpetuated by christianity, wether you agree with how the people are going about it or not.
I mean I only need to point out the division between the church and theology🤷♀️
You are inherently wrong, as clearly there are quite a few christians who disagree with you.
They can disagree with me until the end of time. It won’t change the fact that they aren’t following what the Bible teaches.
No amount of no true scotsman will get around the fact that this is an ideology perpetuated by christianity
But it can’t be perpetuated by Christianity if it goes against Christian teaching, can it?
I mean I only need to point out the division between the church and theology
What of it?
We’re arguing about slightly different things here, while fundamentally agreeing with each other. We’re both saying these people are out of line with what they’re doing and it’s wrong. You’re saying it’s because of Christianity, and I’m saying it’s because they’re terrible people.
Basically, you’re arguing (I’m trying to steelman you here, please correct me if I’m wrong) that Christianity made them terrible people. But I’m arguing they’re terrible people using Christianity as a pretense to exert control.
Then please present why the bible is objectively not against abortion.
Your insistence that christianity is not open to interpretation on this issue is objectively wrong, as clearly there are others who do not interpret as you do. You cannot argue against this.
If this is genuinely objectively not what the bible is teaching, then christianity as a whole is a sham, because that is the prevalent teaching in christian spaces. You and your peers should probably break off and form your own flavour, as the majority of christians will not back you in this matter, including the actual institutions who claim to teach the word of god. Your insistence is that the prevalent interpretation is wrong. Think about it. Even if that is true, if the wrong teaching is prevalently being taught in christianity, then it is still a fault of christianity.
But that’s irrelevant if the information they have is wrong (meaning the information they think they have from the Bible).
Otherwise we could just as easily say that science is a problem because flat earthers say they use science, which they do claim but we know their knowledge is science is wrong.
The problem with religion is that it’s not objective. You can’t argue that they’re wrong if they’re invoking a passage that requires interpretation. And if they believe god is supporting them in their journey, which again can’t be refuted, there is not much you can say to stop them.
I disagree. There are many things in the Bible that are very clear. The idea that the Bible requires interpretation that can be variable is not true. The issue is that you need to read the entire Bible first. Unfortunately most people take bits and pieces out of context as proof for or against something, and they often never question it further because it supports their existing worldview.
Except the Bible shows that God’s people should not be involved in politics. There’s no getting around that one.
You are inherently wrong, as clearly there are quite a few christians who disagree with you. I’d wager most. No amount of no true scotsman will get around the fact that this is an ideology perpetuated by christianity, wether you agree with how the people are going about it or not.
I mean I only need to point out the division between the church and theology🤷♀️
They can disagree with me until the end of time. It won’t change the fact that they aren’t following what the Bible teaches.
But it can’t be perpetuated by Christianity if it goes against Christian teaching, can it?
What of it?
We’re arguing about slightly different things here, while fundamentally agreeing with each other. We’re both saying these people are out of line with what they’re doing and it’s wrong. You’re saying it’s because of Christianity, and I’m saying it’s because they’re terrible people.
Basically, you’re arguing (I’m trying to steelman you here, please correct me if I’m wrong) that Christianity made them terrible people. But I’m arguing they’re terrible people using Christianity as a pretense to exert control.
Then please present why the bible is objectively not against abortion.
Your insistence that christianity is not open to interpretation on this issue is objectively wrong, as clearly there are others who do not interpret as you do. You cannot argue against this.
If this is genuinely objectively not what the bible is teaching, then christianity as a whole is a sham, because that is the prevalent teaching in christian spaces. You and your peers should probably break off and form your own flavour, as the majority of christians will not back you in this matter, including the actual institutions who claim to teach the word of god. Your insistence is that the prevalent interpretation is wrong. Think about it. Even if that is true, if the wrong teaching is prevalently being taught in christianity, then it is still a fault of christianity.