• jordanlund@lemmy.world
    9·
    9 hours ago

    Looking at your modlog, I only see 3 actions:

    https://lemmy.world/modlog?page=1&userId=12206547

    The first is something about tailscale, but it doesn’t show me what community it was removed from, so “Rule 3” isn’t a lot of help.

    The second is a post asking about how to reach the mods, which a lot of communities would remove as a “Meta” post.

    The third seems to be in regard to your response to “What do we do about Elon Musk?” and you responded “Luigi” which is a direct call for violence, that goes against lemmy.world TOS.

    Seems extreme to jump STRAIGHT to a perma-ban for that one. I, personally, would have just removed the comment with a warning, which is weird that the mod didn’t even do that. If the comment was bad enough for a perma ban, it should have been removed too.

    I’d reach out to the other mods in Ask Lemmy and see what they think. They may just be overwhelmed with violent content currently and are taking no prisoners.

    • ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.comOPEnglish
      52·
      8 hours ago

      Thanks for typing that out. Yeah the first time was frustration with a mod removing without comment. Then no one replied to my messages so I made a post. Then finally the admin said I could email him….

    • ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.comOPEnglish
      32·
      8 hours ago

      I messaged @asudox@discuss.tchncs.de

      Saying:

      Hello, I am reaching out to ask about the sudden permaban on asklemmy@lemmy.world. The shinigami mod permabanned me after I said their source was spam. My prior comment simply says Luigi. They didn’t ban me until after I replied that their source was bad. They didn’t remove any of my comments. This seems like a gut reaction based on me discrediting their random source. I didn’t break any rules and their removal reason is kind of nonsense. Thanks!

  • imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works
    51·
    9 hours ago

    Regarding AskLemmy, it was because you were (allegedly) openly calling for violence. I don’t necessarily agree with that either but I can understand the rationale much more easily.

    There are some laws in the books where the instance could become open to legal liability if a Lemming actually did murder somebody and they traced back their activity on Lemmy and found similar comments. It seems ridiculous but that’s what admins sometimes worry about.

    According to some cursory reading, Section 230 of the US legal code provides near total immunity to providers, hosts, and moderators of illegal content. However, the statute is still subject to changing interpretations. More importantly, this wide ranging protection of free speech does not apply for most other countries’ legal systems. I believe lemmy.world is hosted somewhere in Europe, and they may be concerned that not removing explicit calls to violence could leave them open to legal retribution.

    It’s really not that hard to get your point across without crossing the line of actually calling for violence. You can express the most vitriolic opinions and hatred towards anyone you want and you’ll be legally protected, but once you cross that line towards direct threats on a specific individual, you’re exposing everyone on here to the threat of legal action. It’s not even like Lemmy instances can afford good lawyers, we would be fucked if anyone ever went after us for that.

    • ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.comOPEnglish
      21·
      8 hours ago

      that has been my opinion as well based on recent experience. I didn’t leave reddit for more toxic mods

  • imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works
    33·
    9 hours ago

    I’m going to message the mod, based on what I see in the modlog I don’t understand what they were thinking by removing your posts.

    They said

    Tailscale is networking

    Seems like overmoderation to me although I don’t know enough about networking or self hosting to be sure