• Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    I’m sure all we need is enough class consciousness and gumption so our direct action can stop the fascist regime from implementing imperialism.

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    American here:

    I would like for the civilized world to do a full trade embargo on the US. I want the economy to nosedive so hard that either the GOP votes to remove the motherfucker from office, or get crushed in the biggest electoral landslide in history in 2026.

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      the unfortunate thing here, is that the US and the USD is so integral to global trade, that we would probably experience a global economic downturn similar to that of the great depression.

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      The only problem with accelerationism, is that sometimes it accelerates in a direction we didn’t expect or want.

      It’s very possible that whatever terrible consequences befall our political body have been planned well in advance by people smarter than us, or those in the cameras, and this whole thing is the groundwork for actually seizing and abolishing democracy.

      Best case, we depose a wanna-be despot because things go to shit.

      More likely case: we get both concentration camps AND a dictator.

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      As a Canadian, it really really sucks that we have to hurt our friends to help them, or you’ll hurt us all worse. It really sucks that you, personally, had to say those things too, but it’s also brave, and makes me hopeful that we can get through this.

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        Another Canadian with the same sentiment.

        I feel like the sane world needs to make a global Alliance where if America tarriffs any country in the membership, everyone else responds with similar tarriffs.

        America needs to learn that it isn’t alone in the world and it can’t survive in its current state without friends.

        Poor Columbia having to give in to America’s demands over coffee, if they had an alliance with other countries maybe they could have said fuck you Trump.

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          German here, I stand with the same statement the from the guy above me that referred to the guy more above.

          Anyways - In the first tariff “war” trump unleashed in after 2016 we tried to tariff stuff from the US, but since we don’t import a lot of things from the US, we only had tariffs on Whisky and Jeans (I’m not even joking, this happened).

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      That is probably the most effective thing that could happen. But if they won’t do it to Israel for committing genocide then I doubt they’d do it for it’s political doppelgänger.

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        I think it’s more likely they’ll go after us than go after Israel, because the world doesn’t have centuries or millenia of anti American bigotry stored up that in a twisted fashion leads them to let the Israeli government do whatever it wants to poor Muslims as long as that means there’s a Jewish state.

        What complicates matters is all the military power we have and the certainty most people have that Trump would order it to attack anyone who embargoes us.

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        I’m almost as disappointed in the rest of the world not standing up to the USA as I am disappointed in my fellow citizens’ abdication of social and civic responsibility, common decency, and basic humanity.

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      Translation: I don’t want to to go or of my comfort zone and actually do anything. I just want those other people across the world to fix it for me.

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    Maybe we can start by looking at all the corporations who are most supporting him, and push hard for boycotts. It might be slightly indirect, but corporate partners do seem to have the most influence on policy decisions. Maybe we could make a document in the style of the PrivacyGuides project to help people choose alternatives to fascist supporters.

    I’ve seen posts on Mastodon calling for the general strike as well.

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      General strike is the way to go. It’s like peaceful protesting but it’s devastating to the thing they care about most. Older gen are mostly trumpets so they also get hit when their generational wealth drys up and they get to be the ones worrying about making rent.

      I’ve been saying it but most people are hard programed not to question anything and never stick their neck out. I would have hoped concentration camps would be a line in the sand but just look, all over the this post people are obsfucating who is responsible. They think it’s important to assign blame to democrats, an almost irrelevant factor, after they proved they can no longer win elections at a national level.

      Anyway, I’ll be there with you when the strike hits. By that I mean the strike of the billy club as they throw me in a patty wagon for dissent.

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        General strike is the way to go.

        While you’re right that this is what will change course for the nation, not many people get is exactly WHAT a “general strike” really is.

        There is no possible way we can get enough people on board with toppling the current administration that they will shut down basically the whole world. A general strike shuts down everything and I mean EVERYTHING. The amount of economic damage an event like this could do is astronomical, factories will burn, shipping lanes will choke, services will go out.

        Ideally it would only last a couple days, but a general strike is basically a military action by a nation’s citizens, an organized resistance that crushes a country’s entire function. When the wealthy suddenly stop making money, it can permanently ruin them because of the way capital is tied through everything. They really, really don’t want to see even less-general strikes, and will do everything imaginable to prevent it from happening.

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    Did we stop them from building the internment camps at the border in his last term?

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      call these camps or detention centers whatever you want. It is the wrong language. These places are not owned and ran by the US gov. They are owned and ran by mostly 2 companies. Geogroup, and core civic. I encourage everyone to learn this, and to relay it. Instead of getting rid of these compounds, we need to get rid of these companies who have turned our justice department into a for profit billion $$$ industry. These companies are publicly traded. Cops and teachers have their pensions invested in them. YOU could have investments in them and not even know it. Esp if you work for the government

      https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/what-trumps-victory-means-private-prison-industry

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        And this is where lemmy needs some mastodon features for boost and repost

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        Biden made a gesture, but it was feckless and performative. He EO’d not renewing DOJ contracts with geogroup and core civic, but the current contracts stayed in place and were years from expiration. And, it was just DOJ which does not include ICE. Geo and core run the majority of these detention compounds on the border. They have been buying political influence with the money they get from government contracts. Of course Trump is all in for it. They have been lining his pockets for a long time. The more people locked up, the more money they make. And by “they” I am referring to shareholders, which consist of cops and teachers and other municipal workers who have their pensions invested in geo and core. Capitalism has started to eat its own tail.

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        Okay now that we agree concentration camps bad, what is your opionion on trump making new ones?

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        Yeah, never mind, you know Trump built them. No bid deal great guy.

        Does your arm get tired with all those straight elbow salutes or do you get used to it? How hard is it to learn that craze walk you guys do?

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          Are you accusing me if supporting Nazism because I have an issue with the government using concentration camps?

          Do you think you have a moral high ground when you suggest that it is ok for one party to use these camps?

          I believe we shouldn’t he deporting undocumented people who haven’t violated serious laws. Do you think differently?

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            He’s still stuck in 2014 and thinks screaming Nazi at everyone who disagrees with him is going to change people’s minds.

            People like that are just using the performative righteousness as an excuse to bully people.

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              People like that are just using the performative righteousness as an excuse to bully people.

              Don’t disagree about the performative righteousness (also appreciate the new term) - but the current admin, many of its figureheads and an alarming number of its supporters sure fetishize the Third Reich. Not really something to be ignored, imo.

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    Yes, I already did, even before this particular news broke out…

    I tried to individually tell every one I know IRL (which is not too many ppl sadly), basically told every single one of them to consider back-up career options… There are a couple of 1-year exchange students from Europe in my floor and I have not-subtly hinted at them to make contingency plans for PhD training back home. I’ve been following the news very carefully recently so I can share relevant items as soon as possible… The people need to know. I’ve even considered making know-your-rights printouts before they claimed they’re doing an ICE raid in Chicago, but realized how little resources I have for that… I absolutely will do something. Not sure what it is but I can’t see society go this way.

    I just feel bad that as a non-US citizen there is only so little I can do… I don’t even know if I could join a protest without being considered for deportation at this rate. Am planning my leave as well so there’s that.

    Funny incident, I blurted out to my family 2-months ago that Trump will probably build a concentration camp and was told to shut the F up… Murphy’s law I suppose

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    Think the only ways to stop this is passing a bill prohibiting using money on GITMO like the Republicans did with the prohibition of spending money to close GITMO.

    Or lawsuits.