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    so i just browsed through the transcript. the first segment is a political topic about how apple is censoring the appstore on request of the chinese central government from a few years ago and how bad it is, conveniently ignoring that google runs a dedicated, ccp-friendly version of google - https://www.npr.org/2018/08/02/634827587/google-testing-a-censored-search-engine-just-for-china / https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_China

    it continues to say that android is not google and can be used without google and that there are alternative appstores and that apple does not have this - conveniently ignoring that there are altstores for jailbroken iphones for around 15 years now, that in the EU sidloading is a must-have feature in the near future (or maybe it’s already there with ios17, i haven’t checked yet), also enabling altstores without jailbreaks. it’s also very common to have the “eternal test flight” to offer apps that are for whatever reason not on the appstore to get installed with a one-link-tip.

    continuing, the video goes on about how on android one can just log out of google and not use gapps, even uninstall ist, conveniently ignoring the gigabytes of undeletable bloatware from vendors that keep going on to collect your data. “install graphene os”, like the pixel is the sole android device in existence.

    following is an excerpt about how apple defines tracking and that it still has tracking capabilities, even if you disable app tracking, conveniently ignoring that there are several apps like protonvpn that prevents tracking in general. there is also a focus on iapps, pretending that one HAS to use the calender, not mentioning more privacy friendly alternatives. at least encrypted icloud is mentioned, but privacy relay isn’t, also no word about built-in mail aliases.

    near the end we get the old “YOU CAN MAKE YOUR OWN ANDROID VERSION”-routine, once more shilling graphene without mentioning that one has to buy an iphone price tagged pixel to install it, not going down that installing a rom is way out of the skillset of karen mcnormie who just got the newest samsung thrown at her by her carrier for signing up another two year extension of her contract. finally, there is a mention of ios opening up in the eu.

    TLDR; it’s yet another video trying to sell grapheneos, ignoring that most devices cannot even flash it and basically that a rom maintained by a single guy in india who claims it’s very privacy respecting is better than getting an iphone.

    edit: some typos.

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      conveniently ignoring that google runs a dedicated, ccp-friendly version of google

      If you had paid any attention, you’d know that the point was that on Android it’s way easier to simply not use the Play Store (without compromising your security even), so Google doesn’t have nearly as much control.

      conveniently ignoring that there are altstores for jailbroken iphones

      It is much less accessible, less supported and can be a security risk. If it was so easy, why didn’t the people in HK simply do that?

      conveniently ignoring the gigabytes of undeletable bloatware

      Still better than iOS, which is the point of the video.

      conveniently ignoring that there are several apps like protonvpn that prevents tracking in general

      Using ProtonVPN doesn’t “prevent tracking in general” and that you think it does is showing about how qualified you are on this topic.

      shilling graphene without mentioning that one has to buy an iphone price tagged pixel to install it, not going down that installing a rom is way out of the skillset of karen mcnormie

      You can get a Pixel for less, but do you know what also is iPhone price tagged? iPhones.

      There’s a web installation for GrapheneOS not shown in the video that is so easy my grandma might be able to do it given some time.

      a rom maintained by a single guy in india who claims it’s very privacy respecting

      This is so far from the truth that you might as well say it’s currently maintained by an alien on mars.

      TLDR - for the sake of yourself and everyone that might be misled by your misinformed comments, please educate yourself. Everyone has to start somewhere, and admitting you don’t know what you’re talking about is much more respectable than typing bs because you don’t know any better. You can start your journey by actually watching the video while paying attention, or alternatively reading about GrapheneOS on their official website.

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      without mentioning that one has to buy an iphone price tagged pixel to install it

      That bit is misleading. I bought the 6A for £299 when the 7 came out. You cannot buy a new iPhone for £299.

      But yeah, not watched the video as it probably is as bad as you describe.

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        Please don’t trust what they wrote and think for yourself. They clearly have no idea what they are talking about, as I explained in another comment.

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        I don’t know about Europe but the cheap iphone (SE I think unless they changed the name I don’t follow apple too much) is the same price as the 6a.

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        add another 100 or wait for a sale and you can go home with an SE. new pixels are within the same price ranges as iphones, depending the configuration.