Please. Captcha by default. Email domain filters. Auto-block federation from servers that don’t respect. By default. Urgent.

meme not so funny

And yes, to refute some comments, this publication is being upvoted by bots. A single computer was needed, not “thousands of dollars” spent.

  • Dessalines@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    This is all 100% correct. People have already written captcha-bypassing bots for lemmy, we know from experience.

    The only way to stop bots, is the way that has worked for forums for years: registration applications. At lemmy.ml we historically have blocked any server that doesn’t have them turned on, because of the likelihood of bot infiltration from them.

    Registration applications have 100% stopped bots here.

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      1 year ago

      You’re right that captchas can be bypassed, but I disagree that they’re useless.

      Do you lock your house? Are you aware that most locks can be picked and windows can be smashed?

      captchas can be defeated, but that doesn’t mean they’re useless - they increase the level of friction required to automate malicious activity. Maybe not a lot, but along with other measures, it may make it tricky enough to circumvent that it discourages a good percentage of bot spammers. It’s the “Swiss cheese” model of security.

      Registration applications stop bots, but it also stops legitimate users. I almost didn’t get onto the fediverse because of registration applications. I filled out applications at lemmy.ml and beehaw.org, and then forgot about it. Two days later, I got reminded of the fediverse, and luckily I found this instance that didn’t require some sort of application to join.

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        1 year ago

        Don’t read the first sentence, and then glaze over the rest.

        I am not saying captchas are completely useless, they do block the lowest hanging fruit currently. That- being most of the script kiddies.

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            1 year ago

            Btw, what’s the deal with your instance? I noticed you’re from one of the original servers from 4 years ago. Do you know why it was founded or can you direct me to some information?

            I’m from the reddit migration, although a bit more experienced than most (having been here over 2 weeks makes me a unicorn on my server).

            I’d like to spread some more knowledge among my fellow newbies about the history of the platform and what kind of different servers are out there. Problem is, I don’t have any knowledge! Help!

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                1 year ago

                Ah, I see. So tchncs.de hosts other federated platforms, and someone probably decided to set up a Lemmy site when it was originally created 4 years ago. But it was likely pretty empty until the past couple weeks.

                Ok good to know, I don’t really know about XMPP/Jabber but I like what I see on wikipedia. Thanks!