in my experience, reddit advertising has been idiotic for several years.
I go to a basketball subreddit. there are no relevant ads about basketball. not local team tickets, not streaming services, basketball equipment, basketball merch, or even a video game.
I go to a subreddit for a tv show. it’s similar. There are no ads or links to buy dvds or tickets to a convention or anything related to the show.
They could totally target advertising based on subreddit and they don’t.
Is this because they think they’re more likely to get a more valuable click by showing you targeted ads from the highest bidder?
Targeted ads always seem to be so poorly targeted.
I can’t believe for as long as I’ve been on Reddit I never realized that point you just made. Good shit dude.
This is Macro scale issue with whole US stock market not an specific Reddit Issue I Believe
I’ve checked some companies and that seems so, though reddit seems to be the only one that lost ~40% value in one month
Tesla and DJT have lost similar amounts in the last month.
General rule for posting stock prices: sometimes things are obvious when you zoom out a bit.
In this particular case, Reddit stock price is still up several percentage points from the Trump rally that affected just about every tech stock after 2024-10-30 about. Same applies to other stocks like Tesla.
So at this point it’s nothing more than a return to normal. No need to attribute anything more to it. But sure, if this descends keeps going for some time more, it’ll be different.
Interesting! I didnt know that so many tech stocks were impacted on that date. Is there anything special about the start date of reddit’s stock decline? Or was it simple a “straw that broke the camel’s back” situation, where some insignificant thing started the downward trend?
Stocks overall took a downturn when investors finally realized Trump wasn’t bluffing bout his tariff plans
I’m not experienced with stock markets, but is the concept of ‘normal’ really relevant, especially after a whole quarter? What factors would give it a tendency to return to the prior state?
Stock markets are very close to brownian motion. There is no return to normal.
There is a market portfolio (people use the s&p500 as a proxy for this) so returns of sectors or individual stocks should be made relative to this.
I think it started bc Elon bitched about the white people twitter sub was inciting violence and it shut down for a bit and now with saying Luigi
Might just be drop from a peak, but lets hope it keeps dropping.
Now what I under understand (not condone) is the reddit leadership trying to cash out.
What I cant understand is why a VC / big investor would want to touch it with a 10ft pole. There is nothing unique or proprietary on Reddit. Its value commercially is in the existing content and paid ads. With ads you’re limited because you can only saturate so much before you see user drop off.
Now they took it one step further and are censoring the content creators that make it all possible in the first place. As if anyone is stuck on that site - I know I’m not.
Anyway - nice to meet everyone. Fled digg for Reddit; now thankful this island appeared after fleeing once again.
Reddit has a huge user base, that is their value. They generate a lot of data every second, which can be sold. Of course this is technically possible on other platforms, but they do have it right now right here.
I get that, but long term investors need to be confident that the user base will stick after continuing to erode the platform.
That’s the part I have no confidence in. Will they make money for the short term? Absolutely, and a lot of people will get rich. But in 5-10 years?
I joined reddit ~15 years ago and there was already a very large, active userbase. It’s not a young platform, and there have been multiple protests against them by their users, yet reddit is still very much alive. I don’t think the confidence from investors is unfounded. Pissing off their users has kind of proven that there isn’t a real competitor out there.
We’re in the minority of users who have actually gotten fed up with them to the point of finding an alternative. Most people will complain but still stick around and stay active on reddit. They get new users daily who don’t know reddit as anything other than what it is now. People generally don’t care.
As is, I don’t see them going out of business anytime soon. If they continue to make ridiculously idiotic business decisions they might, but that’s on-brand for them at this point.
I can see it going either way.
I probably spoke to broadly and I agree with you 100%.
It is not something I foresee happening overnight. But a slow decay.
As censorship, commercialization and advanced bot traffic increase, the content quality will go down. Once it becomes a forced echo chamber (vs the organic it is now), it starts to look like Twitter post Elmo acquisition.
Now does Twitter still have users, paid subscribers and traffic? Absolutely. Does anyone want to buy their stock?
And I’ll repeat this until I’m blue in the face and user name - it’s an old website forum - nothing unique from a technical standpoint. Anyone can start one who has the hosting ability. Their moat is the users. They have no ecosystem that locks you to their platform. The only thing lost from leaving is your reddit Schrute bucks and Stanley nickels.
Edit x5 because I can’t spell Schrute
I don’t think we’re the right demographic to judge that as our view is very distorted by our own experience. The reddit “exodus” is barely a blip in their daily user count - in fact DAU has gone up by 50% since the API changes which is huge especially for a mature platform. This makes it very desirable as it shows that the more aggressive monetization effort doesn’t in fact drive users away.
Fair point and maybe I am looking at it wrong. I tunneled on the visual / idea that once it ceased being what made it popular that it would be no more.
But I can now see it being another grazing pasture for seniors to scream their political fears into the void like Facebook.
Digg still continues to exist to this day. I’m sure reddit will do the same. Become an unused relic of the past that nobody uses anymore
Did Luigi save us from reddit? What can’t this man do?
When you start banning long-term users over bullshit. This happens. Hope it crashes and burns all the way to the ground.
A lot of overpriced stocks are pulling back. A recession is bad for ad dependent media.
It’s just FUD, diamond hands 💎🤝, to the moon 🚀 🌒, etc etc
/s just in case
I’d love for someone to buy as much Reddit stock as possible and make Reddit answer to any ridiculous demands.
Ah, yes. The theoretical good billionaire.
Yeah, that went great when Musk bought Twitter
Uhh guys I hate reddit too but the entire economy is tanking.
This isnt a reddit thing and has nothing to do with reddit itself
Compare to s&p 500, nyse, NASDAQ, etc.
It’s down all around but not 40% down
Not yet anyway
I am trying my best. Not buying Heinz or Mars bars. Buying Bramwells and Titan bars instead. Where practical avoid American.
Putting the red in reddit.
Unfortunately the it already left when I signed up here a couple of years back.
I’m all for shitting on Reddit, but the overall market has cratered in the past week or so. Everything is down a ton. This is just cherry picking situational graphs to push an anti reddit agenda. Again, fuck Reddit, but at least make an effort…
Yes, but 40% is insane. Thats not just the markets 1-2% blood red days
When there’s a sellout “meme” and tech stocks with a lot of hype are amplified, and Reddit is 100% that.
See: it’s still up 165% over a year. The gyrations are insane and not tethered to its actual value, but basically a bunch of gamblers.
It was wildly overvalued to begin with. Even at 40% down its overvalued. It has a negative EPS. It can be replaced with a ragtag group of federated instances.
Its not worthless, but its not worth 133 a share cmon…
Problem is the markets have been dropping ~1-2% basically every day since Trump entered office. Traders and investors were initially excited for the “business friendly”(read anti-employee/consumer) political environment but then it became clear that the current Republican administration isn’t operating on “business friendliness” and is instead entirely operating on “fuck around and find out” and now they don’t like the uncertainty of anything that’s going on at this moment
I mean it’s not rare for tech lol. Nvidia is down an absolute fuck ton too. Same with AMD.
Also the entire market is down closer to 10%. The market being down 2% in a day is the overall market indexes. There are wild variances in that number per individual company.
Special price on Tesla this week. :)
How the heck were they ever valued at $US200 per share?
Edit: (from ~$34. Market cap 6.4B initially, at $200US I estimate as ~36B, here shows a high of $38B)
Price of the share is irrelevant. Please reference market cap.
Edited to include more info, thank you for pointing it out. I’d known in my head the share price started in lower double digits without major changes in supply of shares, added it all for context.
the price is supposed to be based on future valuation
