I haven’t built a gaming PC for over fifteen years; I defected to PlayStation in '08 when the constant upgrading got too expensive to really justify, but now I’m looking to come crawling back.

I am finding it easy enough to find build ideas for very capable (and expensive) machines but I am that out of touch with “what’s good” that I no longer have any idea of what would be “good enough” (to play most modern games at “high” settings and at 60fps).

Basically, I would like help in avoiding an attempt at going back to my old ways and building some kind of pie in the sky setup like this:

CPU AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D

CPU fan NZXT Kraken 360 RGB

MB Asus Prime X670E-Pro WiFi 6E

GPU Gigabyte Aero GeForce RTX 4090 24GB

RAM G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB Series 64GB DDR5-6000

SSD Samsung 990 Pro 2TB

PSU Corsair RM1000x Shift 1000 W

Perhaps the could serve as a starting point - what could you cut from the above build and what would you substitute?

  • Skull giver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl
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    9 months ago

    Crypto didn’t exist back then, PCs got great longevity somewhere around the early 2010s. Using the same CPU and GPU for five years suddenly became acceptable.

    You only need to upgrade more often if you must have the highest settings on the highest framerates. The fact my 1080 even runs modern games at all seven years down the line wouldn’t have been possible for the majority of PC gaming history. You happily paid over $200 (today’s money) for an upgrade from Windows 95 to Windows 98 back in those days. Imagine paying Microsoft $200 to upgrade from Windows 10 to Windows 10 halfway through its service life.

    An AMD K6 went for sale for an equivalent of over $1600 in today’s money, and wouldn’t even be able to run games on Windows XP four years later. Graphics cards were literally useless for new games after a few years (sharers were all done in hardware, no driver update was going to make your GPU run Quake on the GPU). Two years after spending the equivalent of $4000 in today’s money you got 20 FPS and you were happy for it.

    Prices for gaming PCs have gone down for a decade, but compared to what they used to be, we’re still living in a pretty cheap era for gaming.

    Using a reference point of February 2017, my gaming PC used to cost €1930 in today’s dollars. For about half that, you can get a 5600 + 6700xt + 32GB of fast RAM + an SSD. For a bit below my spending, you get a 7600 + 4070 12GB + twice the storage in PCIe that I had on a hard drive + an AIO. That’s ignoring the massive drop in monitor prices, of course, because the monitors from 2017 don’t hold a candle to what you can get these days.

    That’s still half of the price of a Pentium machine capable of running Quake (Quake 1) at 32 FPS.

    Sure, it’s not top or the line, but it’s more than capable of running games for the foreseeable future at amazing graphics settings. When you take inflation into account, prices sure have gone up, but not by as much as you may think. Nvidia is scum for artificially increasing the price and AMD sucks for going along with them for their bottom line, but before the COVID price jump, PC gaming have been getting cheaper year over year for equivalent products.

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      9 months ago

      Things have changed a lot.

      And you’re probably right about the crypto thing; if my defection had happened in ‘10 - ‘11 due to price increases that would have been more crypto and less financial crisis. Memory blurs a little.