It’s nice to see the senate opposition functioning.
Edit: 18 hours of holding the senate floor, giving voice to the american people. Lots of tears as american suffering is read out loud for the congressional record. Testiment from Americans across the country. This is the voice of the people. Please click the link, share and watch. The media needs to know we care about the opposition more than we care about trump rambling on a plane about fort knox.
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It sounds like he would have done better to start at 7 AM, but I’ve not really looked into it.
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I’m sure he did, but I don’t know the reason, and the democrats have not impressed me with their brilliance recently.
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So you don’t understand either, and are just assuming it’s the most effective way to go about it.
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Democrats have been demonstrating they don’t know what the fuck they’re doing to combat this fascist shut for decades now. The benefit of the doubt has passed.
Sure this was slightly better than rolling over, but this accomplished little
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Think how much more we’d be talking about it if they did someone useful instead of performative for once…
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What if they’re doing it alone, in the middle of the night?
I’d hope you think that was strange at least.
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One guy.
Alone.
In the middle of the night.
That would be very strange. Just like this guy speaking to an empty room in the middle of the night.
It’s nearly as strange, that you don’t think it’s strange at all.
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Dude, we all certainly understand this less than a sitting senator. Get off it.
Maybe 7pm is significant, maybe it isn’t, but we are sitting here from our toilets still wiping the sleep from our eyes while this guy is giving a speech for 12 hours. Can we stop pretending we have any clue?
He’s going for the 24 hour record clearly so start time was irrelevant. He probably had a good nap before it started.
If the goal was actually stalling things, he’d have gotten more mileage not starting it at night, after all the real business had included. Could squeeze an extra half a day of RESISTANCE in there before…checks notes the Democrats help confirm yet another fascist piece of shit appointee into power.
Like I said. It was performative.
There’s a level of servility in this comment that is just downright distasteful.
I show no submission to authority. The point of my post, which was meant to be a jab at the armchair politicians / optics gurus / 4d strategists in this chain who were arguing over the effectiveness of starting at 7pm.
Your argument is literally an appeal to Authority.
I used a slight appeal to authority to highlight the ridiculousness of the initial argument. I’m not typing out a million different nuances / hedging everything I say.
Multiple things can be true at same time. I can acknowledge that a sitting senator obviously has some idea of what is / is not effective in terms of when / when not to filibuster while not bowing to the institution itself. Sorry I didn’t add three extra paragraphs about how despite being a US senator… Yada yada yada.
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So it could be purely performative and accomplish little?
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Its just obstruction thats all. It’s an easy familiar legal move to obstruct the republicans adgenda. It’s a filibuster. We need to filibuster every bill, and when theres no bill we can filibuster more so no bills appear.
Nothing was obstructed, though.
Any time taken up on the senate floor prevents a bill from being introduced. So we just need to do this for another 2 years, and no MAGA laws for you. Sorry little maga boi
The Senate want voting on any bills at 3 in the morning. This didn’t impede business as usual in any way.
Every single minute of time taken away from the republican congress from passing laws for trump is good. It means no one can legislate, hopefully it continues for 2 years.
They haven’t been passing laws. All the bad shit they’ve been doing these last couple months has been through illegal executive orders. Congress NOT acting has been the problem.
There’s a bill in the house that is going to remove congressional oversight from executive branch. Allow these executive orders to have much more weight. unitary executive theory? So you want more executive over reach or should we fight to keep the power of the people in the halls of congress?
What did speaking to an empty room in the middle of the night do to stop that bill?
They’ve been speaking for 24 hours. They’ve prevented anything from happening in congress for 24 hours. They’ve been brining light to republican plans and the concequences of their action so far. They are doing the only thing they can which is stand on the senate floor and provide a oppostion for the republican adgenda.
What are you doing? Complaining? Dooming? Are you protesting with us on friday? Head in the sand scared? What are you up to captain criticism. you’ve clearly been thinking hard about this?
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Oh your a republican hahahaha ya. I get it. Don’t you have someones civil rights to violate? A constitution to shit on?
You ever read the constitution. Read it right now I dare you. How you gonna MAGA when you afraid of the constitution?
Did you get kicked off of r/con for not being extremist enough? Or reddit banned for being to extremist? Did slither your way to lemmy learning nothing from the experience?
Hes going to break the longest filibuster record at 24+ hours so does it matter when he started?
It’s such a simple concept, everyones got an opinion without taking the time to think that a filibuster is just preventing anyone else from using the Senate floor. It generates headlines, 24 hours of bitching. if cable news isn’t playing this you need to share with your family and friends.
The whole point of this is prevent the government from passing laws, and airing the grievances of america.
Its truly inspirational, try watching instead of criticizing, then come back and say something related to the filibuster?
I think the argument I’m entertaining is that there is already not much business going on at 3AM.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m glad one of our leaders is showing a little spine, but he could afford to be a little more tactical about it.
My guy he has been speaking from 7 PM last night to 2PM today. He’s going to set the record for longest filibuster. I’m filled with hope and emotion listening to his words. He can barely stand after 19 hours on his feet and he’s still PLEADING FOR US.
What are you talking about? Thats a full day of the legislature. There are only like 500 days left in the term. LETS GOOOOOOOO
Good on him, then.
Honestly, even if I don’t understand why he did it that way, he’s at least doing something.
Ya man, if you click the link you will see a man sacraficing his body for our voice. You’ll hear your own voice and your own suffering. Our concerns, our dreams.
Not a filibuster
noun: filibuster; plural noun: filibusters
HOW IS THIS NOT A FILIBUSTER HOW IS THIS NOT A FILIBUSTER HOW IS THIS NOT A FILIBUSTER???
Not a filibuster
noun: filibuster; plural noun: filibusters
HOW IS THIS NOT A FILIBUSTER HOW IS THIS NOT A FILIBUSTER HOW IS THIS NOT A FILIBUSTER???
I think they’re just saying it isn’t a filibuster.
What does saying it’s not a filibuster do anyway? What makes that a worthwhile statement? Besides being false it’s gaslighting basic civic knowledge and opposition to authority.
The statement is just here to be disingenuous and keep interest away from the fact that someones doing something useful finally. A political strategy of opposition is born. Check it out! maybe someone filibusters after he steps down, and it continues for weeks.
It is a filibuster, a filibuster is just a long speech that prevents the senate from proceeding to its next activity. They are filibustering all bills that republicans are working on. all nominations.
legally, though, it’s not a filibuster, because filibusters can be ended by the senate and long-ass speeches can’t be :9
I love loopholes. So what you’re saying is it’s better than a filibuster because it can’t be shut down. So this is a positive trend where we can just hold the senate floor and read out letters from American citizens instead of voting to legalize trumps insanity?
Well if it can’t accomplish anything then it’s just grandstanding. Damn near everyone in that room is a millionaire. If what they do is all just for show, then maybe it means we should stop thinking they’re “trying” for all of us and start thinking they just want to keep the farce going so we don’t turn it into a battle of the wealthy against everyone else.
He hasn’t stopped anything from happening.
The article says he has talked all night which didn’t interrupt anything whatsoever.
The correct move would be to hold his breath until they are going to vote on something, and then start speaking and don’t stop. Like a filibuster yaknow?
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So what is he stopping specifically?