• sunbeam60@lemmy.one
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    1 year ago

    The notion that free* healthcare, free* education, subsidised transport, government provided unemployment supports etc is even labelled “socialist” strikes me as particularly American.

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      1 year ago

      Having lived for quite a long time in canada, I think most Americans would love the it.

      Semi related - The USA is already socialist if you consider they have more spent per capita on healthcare, and pay for things like roads, police, fire departments, schools and the like. On the last point, they pay all the way through High School and then significantly subsidize universities as well. It’s all a matter of degree. In the usa, we socialize on many fronts, and then pay companies more than we would pay to socialize the same service and consider that better. Imo, it’s very much not.

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        1 year ago

        I’m not sure if spending more per capita means “socialize” healthcare. Isn’t the problem with US healthcare is that “accessing healthcare at any time without the worry of financial burden” is not currently true for everyone?

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          1 year ago

          I think your definition is a fine one. I think the Nuance I was trying to make and perhaps did poorly was that the US already pays a huge amount for healthcare but we pay it to companies to do research that they then use to make profit worldwide. Not to provide services for everyone. It’s a matter of priority

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        1 year ago

        Socialism isn’t a welfare state, socialism is when the workers own the means of production.

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        1 year ago

        Support is also a strut.

        But if you’re getting healthcare and unemployment that would be two supports that most Americans don’t get. The plural for support is supports isn’t it?

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          1 year ago

          That meaning of support is a non-countable noun, like water or happiness (or Lego, but lots of people get that one wrong). There is no plural of non-countable nouns.

          You might use (for example) “bodies of water”, “levels of happiness”, “pieces of Lego”, or “sources of support” etc.