Oh yes, thank you for sharing this. I felt like I was missing out on something. It was somewhere in the back of my head. Adding it to my comment.

I was considering that for quite some time, and still am, but GNU is a problematic organisation. I’m also a maintainer and a tester for the nixos-unstable branch. So if I know that I’m going to switch to Guix, I also want them to be contributor-friendly.

I don’t like the vibe of ageism against young people that is associated with GNU. What is also frustrating is their reluctance to improve their infrastructure.

This reason is kind of terrible, I admit, but they could choose to move over to Matrix over IRC, but they choose to be willingly open to spam over having a proper, documented chat channel. I am also reluctant to use my personal mail, for the mailing list. Matrix gives me that anonymity, without also having to geopardize on participation. NixOS is on Matrix, and that’s why I like it. I know Matrix isn’t perfect, but it the better choice between any other messenger.

They could choose to remove non-Libre JS from GitLab, Sourcehut or Gitea, or at least come with a new source hosting platform, but they choose not to.

Savannah’s webpage is terrible, and this isn’t me talking about fancy CSS or animation. The color choice and the font is very much anti-inclusive to folks who struggle with digital fonts. I just wish that they make a simple website, just leave it white, and add a dark mode.

There’s too much infighting, and especially after learning about the coreboot shenanigans, I’m having second thoughts about working on Hurd in the future. Is GNUStep is dead or alive? I’m not even sure at this point.

And talking of Nix, flakes are extremely powerful. Yes, it is experimental, but I just love it.

Also, many platforms online are using Nix, including Replit and Railway. This is why I’m very much sold on Nix right now.

I am not aware of similar Guix technology. If GNU can at least fix their attitude, and improve Hurd and GNUStep, then I’ll probably considering going all out on pure GNU infrastructure, be it Shepherd or Guix or Hurd. But for now, I’ll only be using Guix on a VM (still have an instance I use ocassionally).

I’m not saying that GNU sucks. I respect their work on core-utils. I love their softwares. But the present organisation looks defunct. There’s no strong leadership.

It sounds like avoiding cookies would be a part of that movement

Here’s the thing: since it happens to be a product-based company, just like Amazon, or Google, people are willing to swallow their pride and take a few beatings. Honestly, I’d do the same.

Well, if people are willing to work at a toxic place like Amazon India (I’m not making this up, just check Leetcode discussions), which is infested with a very aggressive PIP (performance improvement program), tribalism, casteism, and micro-managing managers, they would prefer a small, young team at Zoho any day.

This is why young people in India are going the startup route, because people aren’t filled with prejudiced crap in their head. Zoho is probably a unicorn, but my points still hold validity for the same.

Now, how they’ll choose between the both of them depends on compromise of either work culture, salary or good WLB. Amazon has good salary, but everything else sucks. Zoho has a slightly lower salary, but everything else is amazing. But from what I’ve heard, the only cons that is stressed a lot is the bad location choice at Hyderabad.

I think that by now, you’re probably confused about why Zoho is called a product-based company while they offer services, and why CHWTIA as service-based, right? Because Zoho, just like Google or Amazon, makes in-house software products. The other one accepts outsourced contracts, steals most of the wage for themselves and pays their devs garbage salary.

Apologies, it was supposed to be Capgemini. Someone below pointed out to Cognizant, and it still felt wrong adding Cisco for some reason. Now I know why. Fixing the comment above.

…because they just throw people at projects with no regard to skill set or level. Their business model is get contact, hire lots of tech grads, assign them to project, cross fingers. They’ve ended up with a reputation of not being able to execute, and they doing it by paying people at the start of their career the lowest amount they can. If you end up on one of these projects, and are actually capable, then everything gets heaped onto you.

Poor labor laws in India leaves workers with no bargaining chip and incentivizes these greedy corporate to do whatever they wish to do. If you think this is the worst, wait till I introduce you to employee bonds. You will be surprised to see that MNC companies playing their PR cards right with tokenism bullshit like BLM, pride month or any other similar nonsense in the west will not shy away from violating some of the most basic rights in developing countries, because legal grey areas allow such practises.

Here’s how their business model works: greedy capitalist (usually from the west) can’t part with their money, and do justice by paying the right wage to local employees. so they outsource the job, and pay about five to ten times less than what they’re actually supposed to. This job is given to one of the many service-based companies. Now, the company that accepts this job eats away 40-60% of the money they’re paid. They make their employees sign an exploitative employee bond, claiming that they’re training them, and that this bond, which will last for two to three years, will be used as a safeguard to compensate for their training (they don’t teach jack shit). So if you decide to leave the company, you are required to pay from your own pocket!

For the first six months, they usually don’t pay any salary to their employee. They teach them outdated, crappy shit for the sake of maintaining legacy infrastructure. Then they do what is called project allotment. Here’s the tough part - if you’re not allotted a project, then your early career is screwed, and it is what they call as “putting on the bench” - basically, the company bureaucracy sucks, so they don’t track which employees have and have not been allotted. When you’re on the bench, you’re paid, yes, but:

• you do not have any relevant experience to jump to any other company. You have nothing to show to them.
• you can also not use that time to learn something, as you’re working on-site, on a restricted internet, which is monitored by these organizations.
• if you tell that you were not allotted a job, chances are that you’re going to:
  • be allotted a legit job, and you’ve saved your career (kind of).
  • be allotted a botched job, you’ll take all the blame, and you’re fired.
  • get fired immediately, as you’re a burden to the company.

This is the worst situation any new engineer graduate can be in. Now, if you’re assigned a project, you’re still acquiring some knowledge, and will be allotted further projects in the future. Now when it comes to switching jobs, you’ll be seen as an inferior employee by various MNCs and startups, unless you can prove them otherwise with a solid resume.

Now, about the “bad Indian dev” troupe - actually, there’s a lot of reason why you find bad devs in such companies:

• they’re paid a crappy wage, so they do their bare minimum.
• they have to work on fast-paced projects with tight deadlines.
• their culture does not promote good software engineering practices.
• they’re forced to write bad code - planned obsolescence and restrictive documentation is what companies like these use in their favor to force their customers to be dependent on them.

One of the college mates who landed a job in Cognizant messaged me, asking about trivial personal stuff about how we were faring in our lives. And then he broke down, crying how he was harassed by his managers, made to stay late at night, and had to take the blame for the mistake of their seniors. And how he hates his parents for forcing him into CS. This was about six months ago, and I’ve not heard anything back from him. His salary? It was about 4 lakhs (₹400,000) per annum, which is about ₹33k per month. Rent costs like ₹15-20k in Bengaluru, so they have to live in a crammed apartment with other bachelors, and it goes does to ₹10k (I highly doubt if they even rent places at ₹10k). 23k left, of which another ₹7-9k goes into paying for daily necessities like food, internet and transportation, of which, only ₹4-6k is left. Then there’s also debt to pay. Salaries do not go higher than ₹6 lakhs (₹600,000) per annum in such companies, unless you’re promoted to the level of a manager, which pays you ₹10-12k lakhs (my cousin sister is a manager in such company). And these wages do no account for the growing inflation. This is the peak wagie life.

Underpay and overwork their Indian workers like a motherfucker.

Return to office is mandated back to 5 days a week and 9 hours a day minimum at some of these places. The company makes bank but the workers get cents on a dollar.

Here’s a comment that goes into great depth, maybe you will find this insightful.

No? You might want to read this: From ‘C*nt’ to ‘Careerwoman’: the Many Ways in Which Language Propagates Sexism.

Yes, using a group, or their attributes to weaponize them as a slur, is bigotry. Misogyny is a type of bigotry where women are targeted. And besides, the direct translation of chut*ya is c*nt. C*nt is a misogynistic word. These are gendered slurs.

chatiya? chetiya? chitiya? chotiya? chutiya?

Why are you censoring yourself? I’m not sure that word means anything in English.

I don’t, actually. I live with my parents. I used to work for some time, but I contracted eczema-like rash over my body possibly due to an allergic reaction. I also had poor mental health, so I was not able to focus on college placements. And then global economic slowdown happened, so it screwed most of us. I’m working on my personal projects right now, and by the end of this year, I’ll try to figure out.