I literally just got Rocky installed on two servers. We were going to field test before migrating to a paid subscription. That sure as hell isn’t happening now. If IBM cannot help but to bite the hand that fed it, then I have little confidence they aren’t going to turn into another Oracle.
If IBM cannot help but to bite the hand that fed it
Which hand was feeding them and how are they biting it?
Idc about IBM but the saying makes little sense to me here. It’s not like Ubuntu annoying Debian which at one point was their upstream. They find upstream up to fedora and beyond.
If anything, Distros like Alma and Rocky bite the hand that feeds them by offering paid support contracts. Nothing is illegal about that. But I think the saying fits the reverse better.
The hand feeding them is the cross-pollination of community clones to paid subscriptions. RedHat would have never grown as big as it has if it didn’t have the backing of people who learned how to use it, and enterprises who built things to run on it. We use Rocky because it allows us to rapidly test ideas without having to deal with licensing issues. When we are ready to deploy, we use RHEL so we can leverage the paid support. I myself only learned RedHat systems because CentOS was free and had a vibrant community. They have killed off CentOS and are now playing games with community distros, removing that onramp for learners and potential paying customers.
Moving distros is an issue primarily due to the differences between them for configuration and compliance, but it is a cost that comes once. If they continue to squeeze customers, those who can move will.
Interesting, I was under the impression that Ubuntu by now was a completely independent distribution and only relying on Debian for specific tools like apt.
But I’ve left the ecosystem about 15 years ago so my knowledge of the current state of things is limited to the occasional news.
I literally just got Rocky installed on two servers. We were going to field test before migrating to a paid subscription. That sure as hell isn’t happening now. If IBM cannot help but to bite the hand that fed it, then I have little confidence they aren’t going to turn into another Oracle.
Which hand was feeding them and how are they biting it?
Idc about IBM but the saying makes little sense to me here. It’s not like Ubuntu annoying Debian which at one point was their upstream. They find upstream up to fedora and beyond.
If anything, Distros like Alma and Rocky bite the hand that feeds them by offering paid support contracts. Nothing is illegal about that. But I think the saying fits the reverse better.
The hand feeding them is the cross-pollination of community clones to paid subscriptions. RedHat would have never grown as big as it has if it didn’t have the backing of people who learned how to use it, and enterprises who built things to run on it. We use Rocky because it allows us to rapidly test ideas without having to deal with licensing issues. When we are ready to deploy, we use RHEL so we can leverage the paid support. I myself only learned RedHat systems because CentOS was free and had a vibrant community. They have killed off CentOS and are now playing games with community distros, removing that onramp for learners and potential paying customers.
Moving distros is an issue primarily due to the differences between them for configuration and compliance, but it is a cost that comes once. If they continue to squeeze customers, those who can move will.
You make a good point. I imagine RedHat is doing this less because of Rocky/Alma, and more so because of Oracle.
Debian has always been Ubuntu’s upstream and still is.
Interesting, I was under the impression that Ubuntu by now was a completely independent distribution and only relying on Debian for specific tools like apt.
But I’ve left the ecosystem about 15 years ago so my knowledge of the current state of things is limited to the occasional news.