My pet theory on this is that it’s because most vulcans are vegan or vegetarian, and many humans still eat meat and other animal products. The diet thing is confirmed canon, but I can confirm being able to smell… meat smell(?) on people who eat it.
The meat Federation citizens eat isn’t really an animal product. In the Orville, it’s actually made explicit that killing an animal for food is regarded as tantamount to murder in the Union.
The reality is it wouldn’t matter if it’s synthetically produced meat, it’s still going to have the same proteins and chemicals as it would if it came from an animal, which is what people (myself included) can smell on people who have consumed them. Eating garlic makes you smell like garlic, eating dairy makes you smell like dairy, eating meat makes you smell like meat.
I think the implication that we’re smelling the concept of sin is very funny though.
except we have vegan meats made from various vegetable proteins that are basically equivalent at this point, and they most certainly don’t have the same proteins as meat.
been eating meat my whole life and vegan nuggets are impossible to tell apart, and vegan ground meat is sufficiently close that you wouldn’t notice being served it in a sauce instead of real meat.
I think we’re arguing two different points. Chicken nuggets taste like breading, not chicken. And you can throw anything in sauce or chili and it’s going to taste like the sauce.
Saying “if you cover meat substitutes in curry sauce or dip them in ketchup you can’t taste the difference” is not the same as “meat substitutes taste the same as meat.”
My pet theory on this is that it’s because most vulcans are vegan or vegetarian, and many humans still eat meat and other animal products. The diet thing is confirmed canon, but I can confirm being able to smell… meat smell(?) on people who eat it.
The meat Federation citizens eat isn’t really an animal product. In the Orville, it’s actually made explicit that killing an animal for food is regarded as tantamount to murder in the Union.
The reality is it wouldn’t matter if it’s synthetically produced meat, it’s still going to have the same proteins and chemicals as it would if it came from an animal, which is what people (myself included) can smell on people who have consumed them. Eating garlic makes you smell like garlic, eating dairy makes you smell like dairy, eating meat makes you smell like meat.
I think the implication that we’re smelling the concept of sin is very funny though.
I think the fact that we’re made of meat makes us smell like meat
Just because it’s replicated doesn’t mean it’s not meat, right?
“Cannibals love this one easy trick!”
“Computer, one human arm, medium rare”
Makes you wonder what Picard was drinking.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Grey,_2nd_Earl_Grey
HuFu.
well presumably if there’s some specific compound in meat that makes us smell, that could simply not be replicated
Those compounds would be the proteins that make meat taste and feel like meat.
except we have vegan meats made from various vegetable proteins that are basically equivalent at this point, and they most certainly don’t have the same proteins as meat.
Do you eat meat? The vegan meats like impossible and beyond are not “basically equivalent.” They are fine, but easy to distinguish from meat.
been eating meat my whole life and vegan nuggets are impossible to tell apart, and vegan ground meat is sufficiently close that you wouldn’t notice being served it in a sauce instead of real meat.
I think we’re arguing two different points. Chicken nuggets taste like breading, not chicken. And you can throw anything in sauce or chili and it’s going to taste like the sauce.
Saying “if you cover meat substitutes in curry sauce or dip them in ketchup you can’t taste the difference” is not the same as “meat substitutes taste the same as meat.”
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They kinda imply they eat real meat in enterprise. When do they phase out animals as food?
Probably aroumd the time replicators became widespread, so, during The Lost Era.
it’s not a theory, it’s fact: the smell is rotting flesh (and dairy for most) and animals on earth rely on it to know if something is nearby them.
You can smell bloodmouths? What’s the difference? I’ll have to keep a nose out for it