The Israeli government on Monday screened for 200 members of the foreign press some 43 minutes of harrowing scenes of murder, torture and decapitation from Hamas’s October 7 onslaught on southern Israel, in which over 1,400 people were killed, including raw videos from the terrorists’ bodycams.

The footage was collected from call recordings, security cameras, Hamas terrorists’ body cameras, victim dashboard cameras, Hamas and victims’ social media accounts, and cellphone videos taken by terrorists, victims and first responders. Over 1,000 civilians were slaughtered by the terrorists, and at least 224 people were abducted.

In semi-related news, the IDF claim to be holding over 1000 bodies of Hamas terrorists who entered Israeli territory on October 7th.

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      When you have a bunch of online edgelords constantly denying atrocities, this is what’s necessary, and I definitely applaud the journalists for having the stomach to watch this kind of stuff so that I don’t have to.

      And before someone brings it up, I know it’s frustrating that truth is hard to reliably determine in war, but if your position really hinges on whether the neck of a murdered baby is intact or not, the plot has been thoroughly and utterly lost. And there are photos of burnt and bloodied dead children out there if you really care to look.

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    The IDF is desperate to change the narrative from the fact that the bombings have murdered 5000 Palestinians.

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      The number given by the same Hamas health dept that said Israel killed 500 when they bombed a hospital? Even though it wasn’t Israel, it wasn’t the hospital, and it wasn’t nearly 500 people?

      I’m sure a lot have died. And definitely too many civilians. And from where I sit, I’d think Israel should do at least some things differently. But if the hospital situation taught us nothing else, it should have taught us to not quote stuff from Hamas without another source.

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    did hamas do israel a propaganda favor? they needed one. fuck them both, murderous dickbags

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    IDF claim to be holding over 1000 bodies of Hamas terrorists who entered Israeli territory on October 7th.

    This claim doesn’t appear to be in your article. I’ve been looking for a source about the estimated number of Hamas that entered on the 7th.

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      Yeah, I feel you. I don’t believe in civilian deaths in Gaza on the other hand. These are all actors, you know. Very high production value though.

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    Cool, now let’s see the bodycam footage from IDF soldiers.

    Oh, that doesn’t fill a propaganda purpose to show IDF soldiers killing civilians and children, does it?

    Hey, here’s a thought: there is no number of civilians killed by a terrorist organization that can justify the gov’t killing of thousands of civilians and non-combatants. If Hamas and Hezbollah are terrorists for murdering Israelis, then so is the whole fucking gov’t of Israel for murdering Palestinian non-combatants with indiscriminate bombing.

    To expand on this, if you knew that there was a murderer in a crowd of 20 people, would you say that the gov’t had the right and duty to mow down that crowd with machine gun fire in order to prevent that person from killing again? Because that’s what the Israeli gov’t is doing.

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      If Hamas and Hezbollah are terrorists for murdering Israelis, then so is the whole fucking gov’t of Israel for murdering Palestinian non-combatants with indiscriminate bombing.

      And with the big difference that no one is asking the west to support Hamas, they’re already labeled terrorists and heavily restricted, while the government of Israel wants to maintain pleasant status within the world while still doing terrorism.

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      Utilitarianism would lead you to that decision, you can justify any atrocity with it.

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        And here we are, in the west, justifying the atrocities that Israel is committing, has committed in the past, and will likely commit in the future, because Hamas manages to commit significantly lesser atrocities. We applaud the disproportionate responses of Israel, while condemning Hamas. We then also applaud the provocations of Israel, and condemn the responses of Hamas.

        …And, of course, we pretend that Israel didn’t create Hamas, because they were afraid of the growing political power of Fatah and the PLO, and the calls for a two-state solution. Kinda like how the US created what became the Taliban by funding the mujahideen…

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    The world didn’t care about the videos of dead Palestinians for the last decade, will they care about these too?

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      I know many people who care about Israel’s subjugation of the Palestinians. That doesn’t mean I’m going to try and brush off this complete shitshow from Hamas.

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        nothing happened when so-and-so government killed a journalist, they all do it, it’s no big deal.

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      Are you implying they would kill their own people in addition to those already killed so that they could make Hamas look bad as if that’s a thing that needs be doing?

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        Yeah there is no conspiracy here only arrogance and party politics involving West Jordan.

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    You know, I’ve always been pro immigration, being a son of an immigrant myself, and these far right arguments against immigration haven’t been about immigration per se, but Muslim immigration, and after seeing the worlds left (to which I’ve belonged and voted for, without exception my entire adult life) turn into Islamic Terrorist Jew Killing supporters, I’m more inclined to give this “anti immigration” stance a hard look.

    As in Israel, Muslims seek to murder and destroy, in the attempt to make anywhere that’s not like their own Islamofacist hellholes, exactly like all their other Islamofacist hellholes, and why import or allow that to imported into Egalitarian Secular Democracy so they can try their very best to make Jews less safe (to say nothing of Homosexuals) everywhere.

    I think I’m going to start to be less of a rah rah supporter of immigration, and I thank the Left for that. When you’re chanting “Free Palestine” and the Jewish community who’ve voted lockstep Democratic in the United States is watching you, there will be far flung ramifications.

    We’ve given the left our support, our lives in some cases like the southern freedom riders, our financial contributions, and our votes, far outpacing in percentage to any other American political block besides Black folks, for the last Hundred years.

    Antisemitism gets people so worked up and turned on, the hate overwhelms their logical ability to determine truth from falsehood, even when it’s presented to them, they simply refuse to believe it, and that’s when the pogroms start, and when they’re ignore, or excused.

    Who wants to import more of that? Anywhere?

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      Did you just whatabout an article that supports your beliefs? Whatabout hijabs? Whatabout sharia laws? Whatabout all that praying? You know, I’ve always voted for the right, but your whataboutism has me thinking I might have to give the left’s pro-immigration stance a hard look.