Obviously I can understand why mysoginists are hated upon, As their belief is all women are trash or men are superior etc. But why are incels also generally hated upon? They are lacking in a way that makes them unable to gey in a relationship, but that shouldn’t necessarily mean they are mysoginists, right?

What am I missing here? I haven’t ever had a relationship with a woman, but I don’t hate all women either. I just consider myself unlucky. Does that make me an incel?

  • Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee
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    9 months ago

    Ok, let’s take your garbage source by source, since you obviously think that overwhelming me with data is a viable strategy:

    1. None of what I said supports the notion that sexual assault against men doesn’t exist

    “Violence against women survey shows that 3% of men experienced some form of sexual victimization”

    So… Consistent with my source that estimates about 9% of victims are men (or specifically not explicitly women)?

    1. Setting aside that this is a study on British men,

    “The incidence rates of male sexual victimization range widely, from less than one percent to 73%” the reason given in the source is that many incidences are believed to be under reported.

    That still doesn’t really change the fact that reported sexual assault in the US is overwhelmingly done by men, as outlined by your next source:

    1. This one is actually my favorite of your sources because of all the raw data:

    Starting at Page 18

    “More than a quarter of US women experienced unwanted sexual contact at some point in their lives”

    “Across all states, between 23.4% and 42.0% of women experienced non-contact unwanted sexual experiences at some point in the lives”

    Perpetrators of female sexual contact are 97.1% Male with nearly 70% of unwanted sexual contact done by an acquaintence or stranger. You know that point I’ve been making up and down this thread about women needing to be wary of men they don’t know? Here it is. In your source.

    Page 32 lines out that 86.5% of unwanted sexual contact to men were also perpetrated by exclusively men, with less than 10% of those cases being female only perpetrators.

    So… Also supporting my source that the vast majority of sexual assault is done by men? Even the vast majority of unwanted sexual contact done against men is perpetrated by other men?

    1. (The onus is on you to provide a source not locked behind a pay wall if you want me to read it, not me to crack it. However, I will again point out that the claim I made does not preclude male victims of sexual assault from existing at all)

    2. This one is a little different because it’s exclusively about sexual violence toward children, and neither here nor there on my original claim, but:

    "Although these convictions are far less than those of male offenders…

    While figures in the United States suggest that women account for 12 to 17 percent of the sex offender population"

    Yeah, again, consistent with the core assertion that men are far more likely to commit sexual assault.

    So in conclusion, maybe you didn’t actually read most of these? Because they all (obviously excluding the one I didn’t see behind the pay wall) outright state exactly what I said, which is that the vast majority of sexual assaults are committed by men.

    Who’s pedaling garbage? These are your sources…

    Now where’s the part where you acknowledge the fact that the source I linked is thoroughly notated and referenced? And that I didn’t in fact just make those numbers up?

    Or am I the only one required to do any reading?