• laughterlaughter@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    Hard disagree. If this was the 80s or the 90s, you would have a case. But nowadays? 14 year old PCs are quite capable for many everyday uses.

    The only people trying to convince you that you have to upgrade things every other year are the ones who sell them.

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      8 months ago

      IDK, it’s a far cry from “dropping support for stuff 14+ years old” to “we’re going to coerce you into buying new hardware every other year”.

      I bought a laptop at the beginning of 2010 and used it until spring of 2021. It was long overdue for replacement by then, so even that wouldn’t have been affected by this.

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        8 months ago

        What made it long overdue for replacement, though?

        Because I bet a mom or pops who only browse facebook could (technically) still use it for five more years*.

        *Though facebook is not the best example because they are constantly bloating their own product.

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          8 months ago

          For me: I like to play games. It was still fine for games like Dwarf Fortress or Civilization, and it could handle Factorio decently well (enough to launch a rocket, not enough for a megabase, heh).

          For my mom? IDK, I was already pushing it with how long I stayed on Windows 7. I’m not sure that this particular laptop would have been a good hand-me-down in 2021.

          Finally…I have to repeat: I bought the laptop in 2010. I got eleven years out of it for a type of device that most people replace every 2-3 years. Why isn’t that good enough for you?

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              8 months ago

              Thank you!

              I was pretty thrilled at how much use I got out of that laptop. I originally picked it up as a companion machine to a desktop, but about a year later, I switched over to using the laptop almost exclusively. I got a docking station and hooked it up to my desktop monitors, and all was well. It did limit the games I could play, but hey, I guess you could call me a “patient gamer”.

              I did have to repair it a couple of times – I replaced both the cooling fan and the hard drive around 2015-2017.

              It was funny, what finally spurred me to start looking for a new machine was a free giveaway of Total War: Shogun 2 on Steam back in 2020. Free game? New computer!

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      8 months ago

      You can have it, but expecting modern windows to run seems a bit silly. It’s a for sale product not a community supported hobby project.

      If it was worth supporting for old ATMs or POS terminals, Ms probably would. But the people with those systems aren’t paying for windows updates.

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        8 months ago

        I never said 14 year old PCs have to support modern Windows as it stands now.

        But anyway. With all the billions Microsoft has as its operating budget, why can’t it launch a Windows tailored to low spec machines? Not profitable enough. That’s why.

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          8 months ago

          My old system was starting to run like shit anyway I had it for over 10 years

          Hardware doesn’t last forever and older hardware is vulnerable to more things.

          It certainly would be nice if you never needed to upgrade anything and could just run the same hardware forever, but we don’t live in that world.

          I get it, there’s that old saying “what Intel giveth Microsoft taketh away” but I’ve said it several times in this thread, you need to periodically upgrade hardware anyway to stay safer from certain kinds of malware