This is just a short rant and is not meant to insult anyone already on here, or further newcomers that joined, join or will still join. Also reminder that this is based on my experience and not necessarily facts, YMMV.

Anyways, in the last few days I’ve noticed that for some reason, especially on the r/piracy sub (although other subs are of course no exception), that there has been a more positive sentiment towards spez (the CEO of Reddit) and a very negative one against the mods and the protest.

I can understand that a protest which you don’t want to take part in may be a breach of your apathy - though what we protest will sooner or later affect everyone, not just those that want to continue using 3rd party apps. I’m guessing they just don’t (want to) understand. I’m just gonna leave the following quote here do with that what thou wanteth:

“There’s something extremely pathetic about complaining about a problem that only concerns you, but wanting to pull everyone along”

On another note they’re also calling everyone who participates in the protest and or makes a comment about alternatives a “mod bootlicker”. I want to thank OtakuA* and everyone who does what they do for spreading the word, even when bombarded with downvotes which sadly and disappointingly does happen.

What really got me over my shadow to write this rant (and first post actually) though, was the following reply I got, in return for agreeing with someone and calling the people bootlickers:

“You’re shilling for a different company lmfao…pot calling the kettle black…”

I still haven’t figured out what they meant? I don’t want to call myself smart but maybe I’m not stupid enough to understand?

Anyways, I expected nothing but was still majorly disappointed with the people over at r/piracy where I thought they would be most in favor of the protest.

I hope this rant is coherent enough to understand and that some of you get what I’m saying. I’m not looking for solutions personally I just wanted to get this out. If there are grammatical errors I’m sorry English is not my first language and I also didn’t want to read over this post too often otherwise I overthink and delete without posting.

Tl;dr: Admin bootlickers call protesters & supporters “mod bootlickers”, me mad

I hope this post shows up I’m posting from kbin - I also didn’t look if there were other posts about this already because I wanted to say this asap

  • NullNowhere@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    4·
    1 year ago

    We’re encountering several little phenomena here.

    1. Many of the people who were passionate or concerned about this issue are here and elsewhere - but they’re no longer on reddit. The anti-protesters are those who didn’t understand, didn’t care, and are just annoyed that their opium hit is suddenly asking them to give a shit. They’re consumers, and in the absence of those who care, they’ve gotten bolder and a larger proportion of representation on the site. In the ~2 times I have checked in on Reddit, I’ve noticed a drop in comment quality.
    2. This is a classic Conservative reaction. Not exactly the Donkey/Elephant kind, but that raw conservative instinct endemic to humanity. It’s the fear that change is a zero-sum game, where is people move up, other’s status degrade, or if it doesn’t. that someone will create a new environment that they themselves are less familiar and adept at navigating. Some people are so insecure that they’ll lash out at anyone as long as it makes them just sit still in their chairs, please. These people are fear-driven ghouls, it could have been anything and you’d get a similar reaction.
    • Yglorba@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      1·
      1 year ago

      This is a classic Conservative reaction. Not exactly the Donkey/Elephant kind

      I mean it kinda is also that kind. If you look at the post histories of the loudest and most aggressive people who oppose the protests, it’s pretty clear they’re right-leaning ultra-capitalist types. Which is not much of a surprise; since the protests are against Reddit’s efforts to aggressively monetize the site, they’re effectively a protest against the effects of capitalism.

      It’s also pretty clear that a lot of the loudest and most aggressive anti-protest types are arriving there from links being posted on right-wing forums - you can see this in the lingo and memes they use, which mostly come from that crowd.

      • Kondi@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        11·
        1 year ago

        One of the primary ideas behind capitalism is embracement of competition so in my eyes those who instantly disregard alternatives to Reddit can’t be called ultra-capitalist at all. And I bet there are a lot of ‘types’ of people that stayed there so if possible I would refrain from generalization, though it does seem some of them are complacent, reluctant to accepting change and/or adjusting their habits, which does somewhat correlate with conservatism afaik.

        • chepox@sopuli.xyz
          2·
          1 year ago

          The quality of the comments on this thread is miles better than any conversation I read on reddit. This is so inspiring. I really thought I was bound to that site, but as time goes by I am more and more convinced that this migration might actually be something positive. Yay for options!!!

    • DownloadMode@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      1·
      1 year ago

      I agree with the phenomena at play, but have to say that conservatism/liberalism (not the political kind) is not a black and white characteristic. It is much more nuanced than that. A person can be entirely conservative in one ideological area of their life, and entirely liberal in another. Eg. (this example may be using the political sense just for illustration) Someone may be entirely fiscally conservative with their money, but entirely socially liberal with their social mores (very open-minded sexually, etc). Or vise-versa, or any other combination thereof.

      The way that we as humans tend to group people into black and white, dualistic groups is not only destructive to the human race, it’s inaccurate. Humans are not dualistic, black and white beings. Everyone’s characteristics and beliefs are a smattering of many different aspects, all presenting/leaning in conservative or liberal, one way or the other. But very few people fit into the category where everything they believe is conservative, or liberal. Most people are a complex combination. Trying to oversimplify it into two categories is a creation of political and media narratives that keeps people divided and powerless to greater interests, and hating each other. Humans are much more complex than that. We all have many liberal and conservative aspects, masculine and feminine aspects, etc.

      Of course, every four years in November, they use the best tactics they can through our screens to make sure we fully pledge our loyalty to one of those two categories.