• sloonark@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    I like the idea behind the community but it is a terrible name. Without reading an explanation, most people would assume it was some toxic, misogynistic group. I only know what it refers to because I bothered reading some of the comments here.

    I’m sure there are much better names, such as Positive Masculinity for example.

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      1 year ago

      You’re right about the assumption… … But the assumptions are also part of the problem.

      Women’s liberation doesn’t get a second glance at is name, so why can’t a men’s liberation discussion group enjoy the same?

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      1 year ago

      Also positive masculinity tends to still be rooted in fairly patriarchal ideas of what it means to be a man in ways that liberation from gender roles specifically is not.

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      1 year ago

      Well, you’re right, that was my initial assumption upon immediately seeing the name. It also aroused enough of my curiosity to check further though.

    • ᴇᴍᴘᴇʀᴏʀ 帝@feddit.uk
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      1 year ago

      I like the idea behind the community but it is a terrible name.

      The men’s liberation movement is a concept going back 50+ years. It would be difficult to change that at this point.

      Also r/MensLib is a large, well-known sub with a well-defined remit. If you are going to start something similar on here it would be confusing not to go with a similar name. However, because of its scope, from what I saw, it tended to be a bit alienating to those who didn’t toe the party line.

      So there is room for a community focused on a broader, looser discussion of the topic (although it’d need strict moderating), like:

      I’m sure there are much better names, such as Positive Masculinity for example.

      Healthy Masculinity? It seems to be the more accepted term, although they can be used interchangeably.