Traffic on the single bridge that links Russia to Moscow-annexed Crimea and serves as a key supply route for the Kremlin’s forces in the war with Ukraine came to a standstill on Monday after one of its sections was blown up, killing a couple and wounding their daughter.

The RBC Ukraine news agency reported that explosions were heard on the bridge, with Russian military bloggers reporting two strikes.

RBC Ukraine and another Ukrainian news outlet Ukrainska Pravda said the attack was planned jointly by the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) and the Ukrainian navy, and involved sea drones.

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    We’d all prefer a non-war lens of Crimea. You’re right, it was a cool and interesting place, and hopefully still will be when the war is over.

    But Russia has no say over whether another country’s territory will be used as Russia’s military port. The fact is, Ukraine was amenable to hosting Russia’s military there, so long as Russia didn’t try to actually own the land, but they’ve forfeited their right to use it now.

    Ultimately, Russia’s military will be ousted from Crimea along with the rest of Ukraine, and that will be that. Had they never annexed it or escalated to open warfare, they would still be operating there freely today, with a much friendlier Ukraine happily hosting them.

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      I uhh. Don’t share your optimism or actually care who runs it, I only really care that the people I know there remain safe. For them and for myself the flag be waved around is somewhat meaningless compared to the human impact of all this nonsense, particularly because some of my socialist friends are gone now. With that said I don’t see Crimea changing hands again, nor does anyone I have spoken to currently in Crimea. I might change that assessment if the counteroffensive ever actually sees the first line of dragon’s teeth but so far it’s been completely underwhelming. Everyone also sees the deployment of clusterbombs as a “let’s salt the earth so it’s worthless to them” move rather than anything that will change the counteroffensive’s prospects.

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        There is an easy way to end the war: Russian withdrawal. It really is as simple as that.

        At any point in history Russian Federation had no right or business to occupy any part of Ukraine. It was up to Ukraine to decide what to do with those areas.

        While we all want the war to stop, it cannot be done at any price. Ukraine must be allowed to return the areas stolen from it and Russia must return to pre 2014 borders. Either they do it willingly or with force. No one likes it, but it’s Russia that chose to attack, not Ukraine.

        I hope your friends are safe, but at the same time I hope they have the sense to leave Crimea until things settle.

        And let’s hope for peace, but recognize that it cannot be achieved by giving into the offender’s demands.

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          There is an easy way to end the war: Russian withdrawal. It really is as simple as that.

          Not physically possible under russian law.

          While we all want the war to stop, it cannot be done at any price. Ukraine must be allowed to return the areas stolen from it and Russia must return to pre 2014 borders. Either they do it willingly or with force. No one likes it, but it’s Russia that chose to attack, not Ukraine.

          Again, this is not possible under Russian law. The notion that it’ll be done with force is similarly unrealistic, nukes would fly before these were taken by force. But before that happens you’d have to see the removal of the Russian warships off the coast which will be obliterating anything that comes near Crimea. It just isn’t ever happening without a navy or an airforce.

          I hope your friends are safe, but at the same time I hope they have the sense to leave Crimea until things settle.

          They’re fine for now. It’s relatively quiet there because the defensive line is so far away, barring these bridge incidents.

          And let’s hope for peace, but recognize that it cannot be achieved by giving into the offender’s demands.

          We’d be there already if not for boris fucking johnson. I really don’t know why you care about the “offender’s demands” either. Are you a nationalist? People are what matter. I could not give a shit about what flag exists between the two, right now it’s just a situation where two extremely shit sides throw thousands of lives into a meatgrinder and all I want to see is the meatgrinder stop.

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            all I want to see is the meatgrinder stop.

            Even at the cost of Ukrainian territorial integrity? That’s for the Ukrainians to decide, and so far they’re picking the meat grinder. More power to them.

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              Yes. I could not give a shit about “territorial integrity”. This is nationalism. I’m not a nationalist, I don’t like states especially bourgeoise states.

              You are putting nationalism ahead of people’s lives.

              That’s for the Ukrainians to decide

              No it isn’t. It’s for the Ukrainian rulers to decide. The people don’t get any choice in it, that’s the problem. And everyone that opposed this war was rounded up and arrested, every left wing party in the country was shut down, and the left wing tv channels were also shut down, all under the “they’re pro russia” excuse simply for being against the war. There is no “let the ukrainians decide” under that environment.

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                Support for the war is high in Ukraine. Where did you get your sources for freedom of speech being suspended in Ukraine and people with anti war sentiments getting arrested?

                It’s ironic, you claim to care about the people, but you don’t care about what the people of Ukraine actually want.

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                  Support for the war is high in Ukraine.

                  Unreliable after everyone that opposed the war was arrested, or taped to lampposts and beaten in the state’s terror campaign carried out early on. My friends won’t openly say anything to government sources or ““media””.

                  Where did you get your sources for freedom of speech being suspended in Ukraine and people with anti war sentiments getting arrested?

                  Every single left wing party in the country was literally banned. If you don’t support the war you labelled “pro russia”. It’s not difficult to find examples of these arrests, and it’s not difficult to find the videos of the terror campaign that was waged. If you want some of those videos I can go find them for you but it’s pretty distressing watching hundreds of very deliberately public beatings to put fear into people, I really don’t recommend.

                  Kiev has however moved to outlaw more leftist and opposition parties, taking steps to make a temporary ban on 11 opposition groups in March permanent.

                  Ukraine faced criticism after introducing legislation banning the import and promotion of Russian books and music on Sunday.

                  One of the new laws will forbid the printing of books by Russian nationals, unless they renounce their Russian passport and take Ukrainian citizenship. This will only apply to those who held Russian citizenship after the 1991 collapse of Soviet rule.

                  Another law will prohibit the playing of music by people who gained Russian citizenship after 1991 on media and on public transport.

                  Such freedom!

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                    I see, thank you for letting me know! I see this is indeed more nuanced than I had thought.

                    Can you provide any proof of the “tied to lampposts” claim? I’m fine with seeing video proof if you have it