• braxy29@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    please stop with the “Just Leave.” we can’t all just leave and i tire of hearing it. what limitations and obligations keep you where you are?

    and if you genuinely can Just Leave wherever you are, reflect for awhile on your privilege, then try to recognize how many people do not have that option for any number of reasons.

    sometimes i think this sentiment is only a little less tone-deaf than “just have a baby.”

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      11 months ago

      Bus ticket is so fucking cheap, if you can’t leave, it’s not time to whine about others’ privilege, its time to look in the mirror. Or some water in a puddle, whatever.

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        11 months ago

        So, like, surely you realize people need homes and jobs and stuff right? You can’t just hop on the next bus to freedom town and hope for the best, that’s a child’s view of emigration.

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          11 months ago

          I’ve literally done that in the past, when things weren’t so good. I guess I hadn’t been told adults just stay, whine and rot.

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            11 months ago

            adults just stay, whine and rot.

            Actually, we usually kill ourselves. Why do you think America has skyrocketing suicide and overdose rates?

            If you literally bought a bus ticket with nothing else to your name and somehow survived, you’re basically just a lottery winner. That’s not a sound financial strategy!

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              11 months ago

              If you literally bought a bus ticket with nothing else to your name and somehow survived, you’re basically just a lottery winner.

              Lots of people do this, what’re you talking about? You should honestly try it, it’s freeing.

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                11 months ago

                Lots of people end up homeless or in prison or or shacking up with whoever will take them in or doing the kind of work they never wanted in their life or dead. This is a shithole country, throwing away your life to go to Dreamsville is stupid af and, honestly, I don’t even believe you.

                If I wanted that kind of freedom I’d just take out my 9mm retirement plan early, rather than my current plan of waiting until I’m too old to work.

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                  11 months ago

                  See, this is exactly the mindset leaves people trapped. I love how you throw “doing work” in with prison, dead, etc.

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                    11 months ago

                    I was more thinking of being forced to do degrading, humiliating, disgusting, or unsafe work. Or, y’know, illegal under-the-table shit. Whatever it takes to get by, no matter how hard it is or how unpredictable the hours are or how much the employerr screws you over.

                    At that point, what was the fuckin point of moving anyway? Out of the frying pan and into the fire 🙄

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      11 months ago

      The people who are saying leave, are the ones seeing you as the frog slowly boiling, but not realizing it until it’s too late.

      Of course it sucks. Of course you might have to build life anew, but a real life beats a kettle that’s heating up.

      All I’m saying it’s not black and white, and many probably already left or are in the process.

      • NιƙƙιDιɱҽʂ@lemmy.world
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        11 months ago

        Okay, and? That doesn’t change a thing braxy said. What if you’ve been aware for years of the pot getting hotter and hotter and have had every desire to leave but don’t have the ability to? Those that have left were in a position in which they had the means to do so. Those that want to but can’t for any number of reasons (finances, family, health, etc. etc.) don’t have much choice.

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          11 months ago

          My take is that there’s nothing wrong in saying leave, or people leaving. But I also agreed that it’s not possible for everyone, or not all want to - until perhaps something is too late.

          I don’t understand why the people who can’t/won’t/don’t want to take offense from it, when it’s a viable option for many.

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            11 months ago

            And your take is at best tone deaf and at worst disingenuous.

            People take offense because no one says, well, if you have the opportunity, and you don’t like it, leave.

            People just say, if you don’t like it, leave. While ignoring that leaving is a privilege for most (how many is many anyway when most are living paycheck to paycheck).

            So, I find your comment offensive. This one in particular. I don’t need to read the rest of the comment thread because this one hot take was plenty enough.