President Joe Biden, reacting to Thursday's U.S. Supreme Court ruling overturning affirmative action in university admissions, said he strongly disagrees with the decision. The court overturned affirmative action 6-3.
While I disagree with the SC decision, I also agree with Biden that a new standard is needed. Race
alone could never cover all the possibilities and struggles students faced growing up, and while it was a “good enough” yardstick, I hope we come up with something better.
I agree that college should be publicly funded, but that doesn’t seem to be in the cards. Even CA, where college tution-free is in the state constitution, has found ways to get tens of thousand of dollars out of even residents in “fees.”
Because fees aren’t tuition, apparently.
I’ve been involved in higher ed for a long time, and I don’t know anyplace where government funding for college or university is increasing. Even the free CC idea seems to be a non-starter.
I think it’s because there are a couple of problems with higher education.
One, it really doesn’t have any rules or regulations outside of FERPA laws. Everything else is the wild, wild west in terms of how colleges treat students, so that leaves a lot of room for colleges to mistreat or take advantage of students until they’re motivated enough to litigate, if that’s even possible for all but the wealthiest of students.
Two, there’s no standards of higher education. There are standards for primary education, but little checks on the quality of your education beyond that. Only other way to “check if the product is good” is to take personal time showing up to lectures but that’s not really a feasible solution.
Three, all colleges are for profit companies. Public or Private, it doesn’t matter, the only difference is the scale of greed. The real goal here should be to rip the money and profits out of the hands of executives and committee members. Personally, I’m in favor of eminent domaining all colleges.
Four, why is a national good (the education of it’s citizens) being held by individual colleges? Seriously, the Department of Education has about two to three decades worth of work trying to catch up on all this BS.
As a European, the apparent fixation on race much of the US seems to still have (judging by media I See) is weird and extremely anachronistic. Why would you not look at socioeconomic status instead?
Its good if you guys use new metrics now. I’m not sure it really was good enough-I wouldn’t know, but I can’t imagine
Because a culture of shared suffering is the only coherent cultural divide left in America. Every other culture has mixed and blended such that it isn’t completely obvious you are with one group or another unless you are suffering as part of that group. Even some rich people look poor and poor people can look rich.
While I disagree with the SC decision, I also agree with Biden that a new standard is needed. Race alone could never cover all the possibilities and struggles students faced growing up, and while it was a “good enough” yardstick, I hope we come up with something better.
Economic conditions are by far the best measure of one’s opportunity in life and should be the standard we use to give the downtrodden a boost.
That seems like a disaster with the student loan situation. You’re letting in people who will not only need loans, but BECAUSE they need loans.
The answer is public funding for college.
Just make it free or extremely cheap.
I agree that college should be publicly funded, but that doesn’t seem to be in the cards. Even CA, where college tution-free is in the state constitution, has found ways to get tens of thousand of dollars out of even residents in “fees.”
Because fees aren’t tuition, apparently.
I’ve been involved in higher ed for a long time, and I don’t know anyplace where government funding for college or university is increasing. Even the free CC idea seems to be a non-starter.
I think it’s because there are a couple of problems with higher education.
One, it really doesn’t have any rules or regulations outside of FERPA laws. Everything else is the wild, wild west in terms of how colleges treat students, so that leaves a lot of room for colleges to mistreat or take advantage of students until they’re motivated enough to litigate, if that’s even possible for all but the wealthiest of students.
Two, there’s no standards of higher education. There are standards for primary education, but little checks on the quality of your education beyond that. Only other way to “check if the product is good” is to take personal time showing up to lectures but that’s not really a feasible solution.
Three, all colleges are for profit companies. Public or Private, it doesn’t matter, the only difference is the scale of greed. The real goal here should be to rip the money and profits out of the hands of executives and committee members. Personally, I’m in favor of eminent domaining all colleges.
Four, why is a national good (the education of it’s citizens) being held by individual colleges? Seriously, the Department of Education has about two to three decades worth of work trying to catch up on all this BS.
As a European, the apparent fixation on race much of the US seems to still have (judging by media I See) is weird and extremely anachronistic. Why would you not look at socioeconomic status instead?
Its good if you guys use new metrics now. I’m not sure it really was good enough-I wouldn’t know, but I can’t imagine
Because a culture of shared suffering is the only coherent cultural divide left in America. Every other culture has mixed and blended such that it isn’t completely obvious you are with one group or another unless you are suffering as part of that group. Even some rich people look poor and poor people can look rich.
But looking rich/poor does not equate to opportunity and perspective.
yeah this is hopefully a chance to come up with something better than what was in place before.