• gian @lemmy.grys.it
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    3 months ago

    This thread is about the UK, not Italy.

    I know. What I mean is that I would not be so sure that what people say they will vote will be what they actually vote.
    In Italy many people told they would never vote for Berlusconi but somehow he won the elections. Same with Trump, the poll gave him losing yet he won.

    The point is: don’t trust the polls, especially if there is a social stigma associated with one of the options.

    However, if we are to talk about Italy, its always had a problem with fascism, being its birthplace and all. A millenniam long hangover from Romes slave economies and Christianity is to blame for what makes it very much the outlier and not the norm here.

    You sentence is the exact reason why people are going to vote for the right wings.
    The only people talking about fascism in Italy is the left wing. At the last EU election the points of the left were that the fascism must not win and that their secretary is a multigender woman. Not a word about the actual problems we have (for example, that people have seen their purchasing power drop by a considerable amount, a couple that want to build a family must relay on their parents to be able to buy an house and even more if they decide to have a child, lines at soup kitchens get longer and longer and so on).

    But yes, we are going off-topic. My bad.

    • undergroundoverground@lemmy.world
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      3 months ago

      The point is: don’t trust the polls, especially if there is a social stigma associated with one of the options.

      Its true, most right wingers are selfish cowards. Although, lets be real, the polls are never that wrong.

      The reason people will vote right wing is because Italy has a problem with fascism? Well, thats an interesting take.

      I mean, if anyone is upset at their purchase power dropping, having to live with their parents or lines at the food kitchen and chooses to vote right wing because of it, they’re beyond stupid. Nothing anyone could say to them would work, as you can’t reason someone out of a position they didn’t reason themselves into.

      “I know, I’ll vote for the people who are directly funded by the groups who directly profit from those problems! I’m so smart!”

      What do you even say to that kind of “thinking”?

      “No, its not that you’re stupid, its just that, actually, when your house is on fire, its generally considered more sensible to reach for the fire extinguisher instead of the flame thrower. I know, I know, I’ve heard the term fight fire with fire before too. However, I’ll tell you what I told my friend, shortly after they lost their job. No, you can’t always fight fire with fire. Especially when you’re a firefighter, you doughnut.”