Most of the time when people say they have an unpopular opinion, it turns out it’s actually pretty popular.

Do you have some that’s really unpopular and most likely will get you downvoted?

  • feifei@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    Being vegan neither means no life will die nor the environment will be spared. On the contrary.

    All life on the fields including small mammals, animals like hares, mice and such and all insects in a normal multi culture will be killed and replaced by monocultures that are not good for the soil and do not exist naturally. You can’t call yourself vegan while pretending to save lifes. You’re just trying to spare lives that you care about. Probably cows and pigs. No animals lives forever. We need to make sure these animals live a good life before they are consumed.

    We’re not meant to eat plants. No doctor will tell you you can live well on a vegan diet without any supplements.

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      1 year ago

      …replaced by monocultures…

      Guess, what? We have those monocultures today. That’s how we feed cattle. But if everything went vegan we would be able to cut that land usage down to 75%.

      Veganism is about killing as little as possible, it’s not about being 100% perfect. We would need those farms to feed people, and of course animals would die in the process. But it’s a smaller harm.

      No doctor will tell you you can live well on a vegan diet without any supplements.

      Says who? Here’s a quote for you (source):

      It is the position of the American Dietetic Association that appropriately planned vegetarian diets, including total vegetarian or vegan diets, are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and may provide health benefits in the prevention and treatment of certain diseases. Well-planned vegetarian diets are appropriate for individuals during all stages of the life cycle, including pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, and adolescence, and for athletes.

      You’re right, we would need supplements, like B12. Today those supplements are given to cattle, because they can’t get it when they don’t graze. That’s were you get your B12: from supplements given to animals. Maybe we could skip the middleman?

        • Beto@lemmy.studio
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          1 year ago

          No, but you can just take B12 supplements, the same ones that are given to cattle.

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      1 year ago

      but growing plants will kill the mice and insects

      What do you think the animals you eat eat themselves? I’m an omnivore but this is a really bad argument.

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      Lmfao we aren’t meant to eat plants. Holy shit my dude this is the worst take on this thread. Congrats you win.

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        1 year ago

        Exclusively. Be my guest and just gorge yourself on plants only. Don’t run to a doctor if you get any issues.

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          1 year ago

          I mean I hate to break it to you bud but like vegans exist. And have for a long time. Wait till you find out that large amounts of Indians have been vegetarian for generations

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            1 year ago

            Vegetarian, not vegan. Essential difference. True Indians, that’s native Americans, were dieting mainly on meat in their prime by the way. Until the white men came and took all they had away from them, including their land and bisons.

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                1 year ago

                Veg rage 🤣. I assume you’re Indian. Please do yourself and a world a favor and get familiar with history, nutrition, common sense and a bit of etiquette.

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                  Says the guy who forgot that Indians exist and have been existing as vegetarians for an extremely long time Just admit you’re a fucking dumbass who doesn’t know what the hell you are talking about.