• frostbiker@lemmy.ca
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    1 year ago

    Or look at footbal fans hostile to each other, where symbols of the enemy team are burnt vice versa until it escalates to violence.

    Indeed, football fans are famously known for their acts of violence, such as flying airliners into skyscrapers, countless suicide bombings, etc. All in the name of football.

    I have no interest in Muslims being harmed in any way. They are literally my neighbors. At the same time, one must recognize that among them there are people with a a willingness to support and commit atrocities that is unparalleled today.

    People who deny this are blind to reality. All sides are not equal.

    • tryptaminev 🇵🇸 🇺🇦 🇪🇺@feddit.de
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      1 year ago

      and among us civilised western europeans there are many fascists murdering muslims or people assumed to be such or deemed as supporters of them. Anders Breivik murdered over 70 teenagers because of his ideology of fearing a muslim takeover of europe. When you measure muslims by their worst, then you need to measure yourself by people like Breivik too.

      I hope you see why that doesnt make sense in either case and is certainly no justification for allowing hate speech in the form of burning symbols of a group subject to discrimination.

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        1 year ago

        Good point but Islamophobes are usually not particularly fond of any logic that questions their believes …

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        1 year ago

        When you measure muslims by their worst, then you need to measure yourself by people like Breivik too

        I’m a pacifist queer atheist progressive green-party voter Canadian with a POC family. What do I have in common with a Norwegian Christian authoritarian right-wing ethno-fascist murderer? The number of chromosomes? You won’t see me supporting violence against anybody, but you won’t see me supporting a religion that stones people like me either. Do you?