Ukraine is not the aggressor, I never said it was. What I will say is that this was was 100% preventable with the promise that Ukraine would not join nato. It was a known red line, and it was crossed. “BUT UKRAINE CAN DO WHAT IT WANTS!!!” Great, and NATO can directly say we dont want a conflict and we dont want Ukraine to be a part because we know it is a line that will likely trigger a war.

Just realize however you feel that is how people like me feel when you do middle school insults.

It could be, I guess it would all depend on the theory of what a higher power is. If its God, then thats the endpoint, if its aliens or simulation theory, then it definitely is a kick.

Taking a WAG at the number, I would say that 90% of people in your belief group would use soft power against someone that wouldnt go along with using their new pronouns. This includes things like banning them from social media, kicking them off youtube, debanking them, ect. Do you think that using influence like this is approapraite to get people to not offend the trans people?

Flip phone or non internet phone. We have a phone for the kids, but its not one that can get them to the internet or sending pictures.

Or directly fighting them and having a 40 year long cold war. Maybe most of those countries have been in direct war with russia in recent memory.

My main point is any philosophy about where humans came from is a matter of faith. I was just pointing out the issue where evolution doesnt sufficiently explain things, but most atheists are aware of this or just handwave away the problem.

I suppose on picking a religion you would need to look at what makes the most logical sense, and is most consistent. Also I would look at what has the best track record with the best outcome.

So then what would you say to a person that wont use preferred pronouns of a trans person?

The problem is that DNA and associated parts are too complex to evolve, so there is no explaination how it would have gotten to that point. You can say that religion doesnt do a good job explaining, but the various religions have one even though its kind of cheating. Evolution seems impossible without another unknown factor which makes it another faith based system.

You are correct that they didnt offer it yet, but it was on the table, and NATO knew that was the reddest of red lines. You also do even know why russia took over Crimea in the first place.

And yes, how america would react is imporant because it shows how we really feel, not just propaganda about how they can do what they please.

Except that the cuban missle crises shows the US completely disagrees (unless it is convenient at that moment). Do you not see how this war was 100% avoidable if nato did not cross the directly drawn line?

The problem with this theory is that we dont have a complete explanation for existence without the existence of a higher power.

What would you say to a person that wont use preferred pronouns of a trans person?

So then nato gets to constantly aggress on them and they cant do anything? And then you are shocked that they invaded.

A really big history… Take a peak at what countries are in nato and realize they have a long history of being directly in conflict with Russia/Soviet Union.

Yeah, lemmy kind of sucks if you dont just repeat the lines you are supposed to. I am not a trump voter, the closest thing would be libertarian, but I dont like their candidate either. I dont think trump was particularly good president, but all the rest have been so bad its not a high bar to be better than Biden and Bush. I just mainly get annoyed that 80% of the things that get said are just lies or misleading, and if you point that out people freak the fuck out.

Thats true, but what if we had listened to them and prevented hundreds of thousands of dead people? Why would that have been bad?

If an NPC in a game you were playing insulted you, how would you feel?

Putting arms near their border… This has been a known problem since the cuban missle crisis.

They correctly feel that nato is an anti soviet/russian union. Why should they not be concerned about it getting on their border?