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Cake day: July 12th, 2023

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  • You’re clearly not cherry picking. If you were, you might have some articles that at least hint that ECs might be more harmful than cigarettes, but none of them come close. The first link you posted gets the closest, but it’s also just an article about one experiment, using 4 liquids that are not recommended in EC communities.

    The rest of the actual studies you posted are not about safety. They do not compare disease or illness or death between the two. One of them does compare the amount of toxic chemicals in ECs to cigarettes and finds ECs to have zero. Until there are long term studies comparing the rate of death and disease, no journal is going to publish any definitive answer that ECs are safer than cigarettes. Until then, we will just have a bunch of studies comparing chemical composition, rates and particle sizes. And if it isn’t obvious, chemical composition and their rates are a bit more worrisome than the latter.

    If you read through these studies and still think vaping is more harmful than cigarettes, then by all means wait the 50 years it will take the scientific community to out right say the obvious “vaping isn’t healthy, but it is significantly less harmful than traditional tobacco smoking.”



  • Ignorant take. When vape products contain, at most, 6 ingredients, all of which have been individually extensively studied, none of which are carcinogenic, and 5 of them are FDA approved for food and pharmaceuticals, theres a pretty obvious harm reduction to inhaling thousands of compounds with at least 70 being carcinogens. So much so that every study you can find will conclude the same.

    Here’s a quote from a source I would call a qualified institution on the matter: "In its 2016 assessment, the Royal College of Physicians of London stated: “Although it is not possible to precisely quantify the long-term health risks associated with e-cigarettes, the available data suggest that they are unlikely to exceed 5% of those associated with smoked tobacco products and may well be substantially lower than this figure.”

    That isn’t pseudoscience. It’s easily found by a quick Google search.

    Conclusively, we’re going to find that the tobacco industry makes far less money off of refined nicotine than it does from tobacco. There’s a reason Phillip Morris bought a 30% stake in Juul, ran their advertising into the ground, and now also exclusively funds anti vaping ads rather than anti tobacco product ads.

    They hooked a new generation on nicotine with Juul and are trying to ban vaping to sell their higher profit margin cigarettes.

    Whether my conspiracy conjecture is found to be true or not, studies comparing vaping to smoking keep coming to the same conclusion, vaping is less harmful than smoking. If you have a study or information to the opposite I would love to read it.





  • It’s of my own opinion that they are absolutely avoiding the WARN act, while also trying to dump a ton of workers into the market to raise unemployment rates, lower the wage demand power of prospective employees, thereby decreasing job mobility.

    Its quite telling when every CEO sounds off like a mocking bird about trivial shit like returning to office after making record profit for 3 years.

    I badly want to write a rant but I’ve already met my quota for today.

    Sorry I ranted a bit anyway.



  • Im fairly certain that what I’m about to say will be disliked by ketamine users and abstainers.

    Ketamine is garbage at everything besides temporarily lobotomizing people. It works for it’s many uses because it makes the user stupid. It’s often given to suicidal people, not because it’s a miracle drug, but because it incapacitates them in a safe manner.

    That said, it’s great at making people too stupid to be able to hurt themselves, most of the time. It’s great at numbing psychological pain because the user will be too stupid to conceptualize their own thoughts or realize where they are physically.

    It’s also hard on the urinary system and has a fleeting high.

    If you like ketamine then by all means, you do you. If you may be interested in trying ketamine, become a zombie safely, just don’t expect it to cure your depression, woes, or any of your other problems.


  • I’ll listen to the podcast because I’m sure there’s info in it that will be new to me, but I do know drug scheduling creates a purgatory that makes substances difficult to research. When the scheduling means that it can’t be produced in amounts to create meaningful clinical studies, the “drugs with no currently accepted medical use” definition is difficult to get out of.

    To add on to that, if John Hopkins research labs, the same one that came up with CPR, water purification, and genetic engineering, thinks psilocybin has medical use and merit, I believe them.