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  • Wanting to appeal to the left AND the right is just a third-positionist, which just ends up being another flavor of Fascism.

    What do you base your claim that third positionism is fascism? Also what do you mean by fascism in this context?

    I think that is way to broad a claim to actually be accurate and useful in real life. At least in the context of US politics where left and right as usually used are both actually more right economically but differ socially.

    IMO the confusion people have is often from trying to conflate economic and social / political views. I see some third positionists as somewhat left on economic views and somewhat right on social views. Fascism on the other hand is usually right on the economy and right on social views along with being authoritarian.


  • That’s a political system not an economic system.

    There are a wide range of economic systems that I would be broadly categorized on 2 factors.

    1. market vs planned economies
    2. social vs private ownership

    For example, the US would tend towards a privately owned, market economy in most sectors.

    On the other hand, Norway (or Vietnam to a degree) would trend towards a socially owned, market economy.

    An example of privately owned, planned economy would be China. However, China would probably claim to be a socially owned, planned economy. I classify it as privately owned because of the authoritarian control the government has over assets and people.

    These are broad generalizations of economies that do not apply to every sector of each economy.


  • The recommended book The Dawn of Everything looks interesting. I’ll have to add it to my reading list.

    There are other forms of political economies without hierarchies.

    Would you mind giving some examples of them?

    I was using human nature as a catch all term for how humans act on a population wide scale in our current society. I think the term status seeking fits better than selfish. Status seeking behavior is essentially seeking power within a hierarchy. It often is selfish, but isn’t necessarily.

    Most people in a society and in an organization aren’t status seeking or selfish, but those few who are status seeking are rewarded by the going up the hierarchy faster relative to their peers.


  • they’re in the positions they are because of capitalism.

    More specifically, they are in them because of human nature. Those who don’t care about others gravitate towards positions of power. That is not exclusive to capitalism. Any hierarchy is prone to sociopaths rising to positions of power. They seek them no matter what the economic system is.

    In other words, power corrupts. People without power who get power inevitably start to act like sociopaths.

    But feel free to blame capitalism if you like. It is the cause of many problems with our society. Any change that decreases its power should be welcomed at least in the context of American society.




  • I’d answer this by saying it is human nature.

    I would actually disagree with that statement to some degree. I think it is largely learned behavior to follow in the context of modern society. We spend 15+ years of our life having to follow authority in some way via the school system and that conditions us to follow more than lead on a society wide scale.

    There is certainly an element of nature too via mirroring. Mirroring is when people subconsciously imitates the gestures and body language of another person to help build trust. However, I believe that our cultures way of nurturing obedience via its institutions is a bigger factor in how we treat leaders.


  • Nearly every organization a person is in from ages 5-25 is hierarchical. There is always a authority figure you have to at least pretend to listen too. And if you tick off that authority figure by doing something they don’t like, they punish you in some form.

    So people learn to ignore authority figures as much as they can and rarely challenge them directly as there are usually consequences for challenging someone in certain contexts. This leads to everyone pretending to agree and pretending to care about what leaders care about to avoid conflict. It is simply easier to cater to those who can and will make your life miserable than to challenge them successfully without creating grudges that might come back to bite you.

    It is also worth noting that we are never taught to lead others, We are just expected to figure it out by trial and error or not figure it out at all.

    TLDR; It’s learned behavior from the institutions we are exposed to. It’s easier and more encouraged to follow than to challenge authority figures.



  • imo there isn’t enough content on Lemmy to only whitelist certain communities. I prefer to just block the extra stuff I don’t want. All is fine if you take out most the low effort communities. I only have 10 or so communities blocked and it makes a noticeable difference. Much easier than subscribing to a bunch of communities for me.