Nate Cox

It is a very slim minority of very loud people who are actually evil, who have inveigled a regrettably large number of people who are not necessarily evil but are short slighted and easily manipulated into acting against their own self interest.

Being an American does kinda suck these days though as a result.

No, they’re not.

They’re not discussing what the appropriate penalties should be—which, by the way, is typically done at the end of a trial during the sentencing phase, after all evidence has been presented and a guilty verdict has been delivered, because punishment is supposed to be reflective of the evidence presented—they’re saying that they’ve already decided that the target penalty is death.

That’s a clear nod that they want to make an example, a concept divorced from justice.

He is currently innocent of all of those charges.

We don’t get to pick and choose when innocent before proven guilty gets applied. Openly stating that they’re seeking the death penalty before he’s even been indicted is weird and wrong.

Contempt of court when?

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“I don’t even know who that is” clearly means “this person has been living rent free in the forefront of my mind for as long as I can remember”.

Fuck that, there are many paths to success. These losers just sound jealous that you found yours.

They’re even careful to say “traits of dire wolves” but sensationalism gonna be sensational.

You know what man, my bad here. I have a general policy of not digging through comment histories to make judgements about people, but I saw a comment about you pulling this same shit about BLM so I went and had a look.

It’s clear to me now that you’re a low effort troll, and like, just a general chode. I hope you can fix whatever it is that makes you this way and I hope you can live a better life but I won’t waste my time with this anymore.

This guy isn’t interested in actual discourse. He only seems capable of one-liner nonsense and hoping you just accept it because it “feels right”.

You might be surprised by this, but nowhere in your response did you include links to peer reviewed research projects supporting your position.

Again with the simple answer. No evidence, no supporting argument, just “nuh uh”.

The incentive that works is “Get treatment or go to jail, pick one.”

Prove it. Show me studies that jail time is an effective deterrent to drug use. Peer reviewed, actual research.

I’ve worked with former addicts for many, many years; I have never had one of them tell me that jail got them straight, but I have had many tell me they came out of jail more addicted than they went in.

The solution is social welfare programs and a focus on mental health, job placement, and relocation assistance. Give the vast majority of people health care, stable employment, and a safe place to live, and they will thrive.

The solution is not cramming people into prison labor and ripping their constitutional rights from them.

I really don’t understand how this isn’t obvious to everyone.

I can’t help but notice that you really like to cherry pick only the parts of comments you think you have a simple answer to.

How about responding to the meat of the argument rather than trying to just move the goalpost?

Did you miss the entire part of the article talking about how this effectively locks up the court system, deprives US citizens of their constitutional right to representation, and does effectively nothing to actually get people off drugs?

Tell me more about how you like punishing the poor for being poor, though.

Green, the DA, said he felt deflection was a better path to treatment than the criminal system, which can be a slow process, and that the fact that only some people were succeeding was a good sign: “We didn’t [make it] too easy or too hard. We really found that sweet spot.”

Oh fuck you. 70 or so people deflecting out of 1200 arrests is not success you pompous prick, it’s failure.

By finding him guilty but not punishing him, he will be made to feel guilty and the chance of him reoffending will be prevented, without socially impairing the man

What a load of horse shit. “Letting him get away with rape penalty free will ensure he doesn’t do it again” is some crazy fucking logic. Seems like knowing there are no consequences for your actions would make repeating the offense significantly more likely.

The irony of choosing the most pedantic way of saying that they’re not pedantic is pretty amusing though.

The problem with being like… super pedantic about definitions, is that you often miss the forest for the trees.

Illegal or not, seems pretty obvious to me that people saying illegal in this thread and others probably mean “unethically”… which is pretty clearly true.