I’ll be honest, I don’t even know what you’re asking. Discord owns all data on Discord. Server “owners” do not own anything from a data security standpoint. If you are asking a question in good faith, please rephrase it into smaller sentences. If you are arguing in bad faith, I have no desire to continue this thread.

I’m sorry, but it’s probably in your best interest to do some research and actually read the discord Terms of Service and Privacy Policy before arguing about something you lack knowledge in. Creators of a Discord server are not responsible for members’ data that they send to Discord. That relationship is between Discord and the Member, not the creator of a server. Any “contractual agreement” you are talking about is covered when you click “I agree” when creating an account, the devs’ accounts included.

This is a ridiculous argument that has a correct answer that Discord themselves will tell you.

Source: CASP+ Certified

That sounds like an absolute nightmare to realistically navigate but I would love to see it.

“Why do planets have borders, I want to circumnavigate Mars”

• Statement spoke by the utterly deranged

Literally. Gamers be like

“No more crunch culture! Take your time and release when it’s ready!”

also

“Why do games take so long??”

…what. He just made an analogy about not consuming unethical beans. That’s literally his point. So no, he does not consume the beans.

Get these garbage AI generated posts out of here.

If a site is decently coded

This is the crux of the issue. The average internet user, the kind of user going to a random website to generate a password, would not be able to find this out. For all we know, even without the username, a randomly generated password could be saved to a wordlist after it’s generated. That would be pretty smart, since now you have a list of known used passwords that someone went through the effort to generate to secure something more valuable. (Which would refute your points A and B)

And your point C, not always. By your same logic, you’d be comfortable using “password” as long as you have 2FA? There is always a possibility of 2FA being bypassed through some other vulnerability depending on its implementation. This is why it’s TWO (or multi) factor authentication. In case one factor is compromised, you have another layer of defense. If you use a compromised password (by either using “password” or a sketchy password generator), then you’ve effectively reverted yourself back to one factor authentication. Or zero, if you didn’t have MFA.

Don’t listen to anyone suggesting otherwise. Don’t use random websites. Either stick to a password manager to generate them for you, or take it completely offline with a dice roll-based generation.

It’s essentially a brand new platform. A tiny dip a month after the initial boom is far from “losing users” and is not indicative of trends. I don’t understand why everyone is so obsessed with growing Lemmy as fast as possible.

That is far from normal. If these are free dlc, then that’s great, but this is more and more regular updates that they are locking behind a paywall. Many of them are not just cosmetic, and are entirely new guns that are overpowered enough to become the new meta in order to complete certain heists on certain difficulties. Some are brand new heists, too. They even added loot boxes two years after saying they wouldn’t (although they have rolled it back since then due to the predicable negative response). It’s always been a cash grab, and it’s unfortunate that it appears they may be falling back into old habits.

So uh, is this a good thing? Do we really want to repeat what happened to Payday 2 and have 50?

Edit: Sorry, my mistake. There’s 81.

Ignoring all of my comment again. Classic. See ya.

Once again, you didn’t read my comment lmao. You’re right. They do ignore it, but they don’t ignore it when money is involved. Literally look up cases where companies shut down mods, they usually are financially driven.

Since you’re not here to actually have a discussion in good faith, I’m going to go. Take care 👋

The difference is the legal boundary. Microsoft allows you legally to write your own code and sell it to people to run on their computers without owning Microsoft as a company. Bethesda owns their software, and has legal agreements you agree to when you skip through them when you start up the game, saying you won’t mod it or profit off their game. Look at my other comment if you want to actually see where.

Way to strawman me and ignore my points 👍 I do not want people working for free. I am firmly pro-union and pro-fair pay and all of that. They don’t have to work for free. They can monetize it the way every other mod does it by having a Patreon that you can subscribe to or donate to support them. Plenty of mods do this already and this is the generally accepted way to do it due to the reasons I mentioned before, which I will now spell out for you because you ignored them:

1. If you have a problem with the mod, it doesn’t work how you want, you have no recourse if you paywall it the way they did.
2. It is generally unethical and a bad look to make money using other’s IP as a base without their permission. Bethesda has potential legal recourse for this, as they’ve broken EULA. Section 3 - B, D, G, and 4. Section 4 is especially interesting because it states you agree to not have a monetary interest in the game or its content. By paywalling a mod, you are relying on the game not having DLSS to make money. Full stop. That’s the point of the mod. While the various paragraphs in Section 3 do say that modding of any kind is prohibited, this kind of thing is usually not enforced (as is very apparent with Skyrim or Fallout 4). Until money is involved. This is why a donation button is distanced far enough away from this kind of thing. A donation button is supporting the developer, and legal waters get a little grayer. For this mod, you are paying for the mod. That’s pretty black and white, and that’s exactly why it is frowned upon to go that route with mods.

For sure, but like most every other mod for any game out there, there’s donation pages and Patreons. What if you buy it and download it, and it turns out it doesn’t work for you? You can’t refund it like you would a Steam game. Locking mods, an already experimental thing, behind a paywall is scummy, because you’re not only profiting off of someone else’s game, you’re also taking money from people who aren’t even sure it’s right for them. There are tons of mods out there that are not paywalled and are comfortably financially supported through Patreon. Using a paywall in this situation is just a cash grab banking on a freshly released game. Literally the day after.

Man, and I was just about to get that mod too. Really scummy.

Judging by others’ comments and upvotes on my comments, I don’t think I’m alone here in my reasoning, but if there are others that don’t care about the cross-contamination, then I guess we will agree to disagree. I just know that I personally am blocking communities that cross-contaminate, and I am personally looking for strictly Lemmy user to Lemmy user discussions.

I disagree here. The original poster and conversation was started on another platform without any regard or consideration for a platform like Lemmy. They posted it on Reddit, for Reddit, and for Reddit’s culture. Not us. Any replies made on Lemmy would not go to the OP on Reddit. Thus, as far as I care, it’s a post made by a bot. Any emotion or care towards the intended destination community has been detached the moment it was taken by a bot and put somewhere else.

If someone asks a question on /r/python, and it gets posted here on Lemmy, why would I bother replying? It’s not directed towards us, and the OP wouldn’t ever see it, so it’s just spam at that point.

That’s fair. Yeah it’s definitely meant for even less than small talk; “minimally as possible” is the general sentiment behind phatic expressions in the first place.