I can think of one immediately that may fight the US for that title…

Fuck do I ever relate to this. I probably have over 200 titles in my Steam library that I redeemed from Humble Bundles and have never installed. Insane.

I don’t think they care whether they are legitimate or not to be completely honest. Hamas won the election in '06 fair and square, then defended against an attempted coup…whether that leaves them as a legitimate power or not is beyond my scope of understanding. One could probably also argue that they lack of elections for the last 18 years makes them illegitimate. But regardless, Hamas is an easy excuse whether they were elected fairly today or 18 years ago. I honestly don’t think Israel would treat Hamas and Palestinians any differently if they won a fair election again next week.

Exactly. When someone thinks an occupied people living under siege and military occupation can just wake up one day and decide to hold elections I can only shake my head. Israel won’t allow it, because they love Hamas being in power in Gaza, it provides a very easy excuse for their actions. Israel loves the status quo, because they can seemingly get away with anything as it is.

To be completely fair, I don’t think anyone is blaming Biden for all of the conflict between Zionists and Palestinians historically. What we are blaming him for is facilitating the last 7 months of blatant genocide and ethnic cleansing by sending money and weapons to Israel and defending them at every turn. without Biden’s unwavering support, the last 7 months would look a hell of a lot different for Palestinians.

I didn’t intend to say being pro-Israel means you’re okay with everything they do. What I’m trying to say is that in my experience, people interpret “pro-Israel” as being in support of the way in which Israel exists, namely an apartheid an ethnostate.

I’m envious of your trips to Palestine. One day I’ll get there. I have friends who said they will take me one day.

I think it’s important to remember that for most people, anti-Israel does not mean Israel cannot exist at all. It is that the Israel we know, cannot continue to exist in the way that it is. Similarly to being anti-South African apartheid did not mean all the settlers had to be leave, it meant the country had to fundamentally change the way it operates and treated the its citizens.

To add, if you are calling yourself pro-Israel, I think you should be aware that for most people that means you are a-okay with how Israel has been oppressing and murdering Palestinians for decades.

I’ve said this before and I will say it again. This period of time will go down in history as a particularly dark time in human history. The fact that not only is this happening, but efforts to stop it from people with real power to change it is incredibly minimal. The world powers letting this happen is perhaps worse that the Zionists doing it.

• Reminder that multiple Palestinian villages have been ethnically cleansed in the West Bank during the assault on Gaza, by settler militias supported by the IOF.

• Reminder that Israel rejected early proposals for hostage exchanges opting instead for carnage on the Palestinian civilians.

• Reminder that Israel KNEW of the October 7 attack ahead of time and failed to do anything to stop it.

• Reminder that Israel is by all accounts a setler-colonial ethnostate imposing apartheid on the Palestinian people.

Reminder that there was a 56 year occupation and a 75 year ethnic cleansing before the 7th of October attacks

All the supporters of Palestine that I know absolutely support the return of any hostages, including myself. However we aren’t so one-sided to only demand that of Hamas. We also believe the 5000+ Palestinians held in Israeli prisons and military posts, many of which are illegally held without charges, unable to seek legal advice or see family, some of which are children, ought to be returned as well.

Don’t be blind to what is happening. It isn’t hard information to find.

That’s okay, I’m not trying to get a response! Just trying to make sure people think about this with less bias.

Israel began its occupation in 1947 when the soon-to-be state began ethnically cleansing the lands - removing the Indigenous locals out of their homes and villages. Yes - this sparked the 1948 war, which resulted in even more land being occupied. This issue did not begin with the 1948 war.

Who has ruled over the other with military occupation, routinely unhoused, tortured, killed and terrorized the other for 70+ years?

Who decided they wanted the land and proceeded to ethnically cleanse the towns to make room for their own people?

Don’t turn a blind eye.

Perhaps prejudiced is a more appropriate term. And I agree, I think we ought to avoid such inflammatory statements about an entire nation of people based on the actions of a relatively small few, even when those actions are despicable.

Okay I did it! I honestly don’t know the right way to link to communities so I hope this works. Let’s get it going: !mandolin@lemmy.ca

@cottard@lemmy.world and @ritswd@lemmy.world you’re invited too!

Absolutely devastating. The footage from the blaze is nightmare material.

To be quite honest I did not read through all the comments to see if this has been suggested already, but Child of Light comes to mind!

No kidding! Maybe I will look into starting one…

Happy birthday to all of our OG dungeon master! Without him our lives would be vastly different I reckon.