In a conversation with Mike Solan, the head of the Seattle Police Officers’ Guild, Seattle Police Department officer and SPOG vice president Daniel Auderer minimized the killing of 23-year-old student Jaahnavi Kandula by police officer Kevin Dave and joked that she had “limited value” as a “regular person” who was only 26 years old.

In fact, as we reported exclusively, Dave was driving 74 miles an hour in a 25 mile per hour zone and struck Kandula while she was attempting to cross the street in a marked and well-lighted crosswalk.

  • Vodik_VDK@lemmy.world
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    Well I suppose we could start by abiding by the tender suggestion of a certain document and not let them be the only ones with weapons.

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      Why do you gun humping morons slide this stupid shit into every fucking conversation?

      Was this woman supposed to have whipped out her ar and start blasting the cop car racing towards her?

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        +1

        Why is the solution to police having guns, more guns?

        Maybe less guns is the answer?

        Maybe?

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            You really can’t think of anything.

            There have been solutions proposed to tighten gun restrictions or just simply to reduce the issue for decades.

            There are examples of entire countries where this shit already works.

            Honestly at this point saying just “how” is uninformed or disingenuous.

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              There have been solutions proposed to tighten gun restrictions or just simply to reduce the issue for decades.

              I’m all for licensing and registration, that isn’t however reducing the total number.

              There are examples of entire countries where this shit already works.

              Yes, in general much smaller countries with a much different culture and the fun one, fascistic countries.

              Honestly at this point saying just “how” is uninformed or disingenuous.

              It isn’t, there isn’t a workable solution proposed at the moment, it’s insanely complex and simply saying “maybe fewer” is the answer is uninformed or disingenuous.

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              refer you to “So get to work on forcing those cops to give up their guns already” from my comment that you replied to, then.

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                The “I am rubber you are glue” defense doesn’t work here.

                You: “Force cops to give up their guns”

                Me: “How?”

                You: “Force cops to give up their guns”

                Are you trying to say essentially there’s no path forward except the fascist militarization of law enforcement at the sacrifice of all (other than 2A) Constitutional liberty?

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            I guess the myriad of countries around the world that have heavy gun restrictions and no gun problems aren’t example enough?

            No theres just nothing that can be done about americas gun problems. Nothing…

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              Well if the cops are keeping their guns, then the citizens certainly shall retain that right as well. It is our right anyway, and I’m glad we have that freedom.

              Y’all are just going to have to get over your hysterical idea that “getting rid of the guns” is a realistic option. It’s just a simple-minded fantasy due to the fact that our rights are iron-clad, and the millions of unregistered guns in private hands would never be relinquished whether they were banned or not.

              I’m not afraid of gun violence, because I can read and understand statistics well enough to comprehend that it’s not a danger significant enough to worry about. It’s not even in the top 10 most common causes of death in the USA. I enjoy a life of general contentment and peace in the USA, doing pretty much whatever the fuck I want on a daily basis, and it is pretty wonderful.

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                Police have guns in other countries and dont go around shooting people that arent criminals and for no reason. Seems the problem isnt so much the guns but the types or people that are becoming police and the way they are trained. You think there cant be any change because you wont see its affect immediately. It will take time. But it can happen.

                Also saying its not even the top 10 cause of death is a bit dumb. So even thought it will help reduce death its not worth dealing with because more people die of other things. Sure.

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                  Also saying its not even the top 10 cause of death is a bit dumb.

                  No it’s not dumb at all, it’s quite relevant to the context in which I used that information, which is not the context in which you are framing it. You’re making up a fake argument by using my words out of context in other words.

                  I said that because it’s my reason for not being worried about it. It’s not a danger worth being worried about because it is statistically unlikely to happen to most people.

                  Separate from that, I stated support for our 2A rights and verbally shat upon the idea of gun bans, because it is not logistically possible to remove them from society in the USA.

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                  Police have guns in other countries and dont go around shooting people that arent criminals and for no reason.

                  1. Yes they fuck they do.
                  2. Being labeled “criminal” is not justification for shooting somoene.
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                    Don’t german police have to account for wssentially every bullet fired? While US cops are imitating die-hard?

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        Nothing she could have done, but as the old saying goes: “can’t corner the Dorner!”

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        Read the original comment again but very, very slowly.

        Also, the same can be said for anti-gun people as well. I don’t even talk about guns on here anymore because every time you mention them, you have a bunch of snobs from both sides looking to start a big ass fight over shit totally unrelated to the topic.

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      Have you ever actually applied any real world logic to this fantasy scenario of yours? It ends up with you extremely and irrevocably dead.

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        It’s not even the being dead part. Ask yourself, “Is this the society you want? Is this how it should function?”

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        The fuckin’ Army Surplus store dude. The local gun store. Here in America, we have access to it all.

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            Here you go: http://www.exarmyvehicles.com/

            That website offers APCs and other tank-like vehicles for sale, with international shipping offered. See their Logistics section for options.

            If that’s not a good option, you could always buy a Dodge monster truck like the small dick men of the USA often drive, then pay a welder to add armor plating surrounding the vulnerable areas. 1-inch steel plate should stop most small arms fire.

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              And how many people who need this sort of thing to fight back against police will be able to afford them and then figure out how to use them properly and then use them in a fight with the police and survive?

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                Very few, if we’ve been paying attention. Which protests/riots had more cops willing to shoot at those involved? The heavily armed ‘marches’ that we’ve seen, or the large crowds of unarmed individuals? Sure, some of that may have been because of bias from the police, but I guarantee most of it was because they were afraid of starting a shooting when there was the possibility of being shot back at.