• Etterra@discuss.online
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    13 hours ago

    Your start an underground resistance movement, get branded a terrorist, and end up in Guantanamo Bay. It’s called FREEDOM.

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      They should start building tunnels because so far this is the most effective form of resistance against air and space attacks.

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    12 hours ago

    Compulsory voting.

    If you don’t vote, you don’t get to take deductions on your federal taxes and you don’t get any owed tax refund. When you do vote, you also get an extra 3% discount on federal tax owed until your AGI is over $190k.

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    5 hours ago

    Ok you don’t want the way answer vote sonit doesn’t happen. The second way guns.

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      4 hours ago

      there are other types of disruptive protesting other than guns… for example, blocking the roads around tesla plants and dealerships.

      also sabotage…

      i would be happy to hear about any nazi’s getting murked but, most people shouldn’t even think about trying that…
      i do think the targets of nazis should get guns though for self-defense….

      tl;dr an immature person wants to die for a cause, a mature person is willing to live for a cause

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    12 hours ago

    Be more precise with your language and you have the answer. Fight is too vague. Punch a nazi in the face.

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    Ok, so serious answer for our friends who don’t live in places without an active culture of protest:

    1. Vote. No, really. If people actually fucking voted, we wouldn’t be in this mess.

    2. Give money to advocacy organizations

    3. Give your time and money to mutual aid organizations

    4. Read the news (not just on lemmy either)

    5. CALL your congresspeople. Emails and letters are better than nothing, but do not have the same impact.

    6. Try to get your friends to do #1-5

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      I live in a country where voting is compulsory and yet we got Donald trump lite elected. Voting can be part of the solution but it can never be the only thing.

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      12 hours ago

      Just playing devils advocate here. If we are talking about real fascism then usually the vote is rigged by that point. Usually by the point where you already have facism take over voting is already too late.

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      Vote. No, really. If people actually fucking voted, we wouldn’t be in this mess.

      Trump won with the popular vote.

      A key element to defeat things like fascism, which build themselves on the popularity of fear, is that voting can’t be free-for-all. Voting should require, or be weighed with, some sort of licensing, testing of sane mind, awareness and understanding of at least current events, review of known association with dangerous anti-society parties, etc.

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        More people didn’t vote than they did for either candidate. Apathy won.

        Means testing voting? What could possibly go wrong?! You do see how horrifically abusable that is, right?

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          There has not been an US presidential election where the president got more votes than the number of non-voters. If apathy won then it had won every single time.

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              That’s hardly the reason. If you had a multi-party system the voted would be even more spread out between the candidates which makes it even less likely for a candidate to get more votes than the non-voting population. However a multi-party system would significantly lessen the possibility of getting oligarchic control because you wouldn’t have to choose between 2 shitty options, you’d have to have multiple shitty choices for the shittiest one to win.

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      1. Vote. No, really. If people actually fucking voted, we wouldn’t be in this mess.

      You would think that, but the reality is probably that out if everyone who didn’t vote you would get an even spread so they really don’t make that big of a difference. Take other countries where voting is compulsory like Brazil and Argentina and they also elected extreme right clowns.

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        out if everyone who didn’t vote you would get an even spread

        I don’t think that’s necessarily true. I suspect that the median non-voter is less wealthy than that of the voters.

        Take other countries where voting is compulsory

        We have compulsory voting in Australia. Presently we have a progressive (left of centre) government. It’s possible or likely that we will elect a right of centre government this year, but not extreme right clowns.

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        Millei is necessary for Argentina. Would be a bad president in America but that country desperately needed austerity

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            Argentina’s core problem is their previous Peronist government’s unsustainable spending and command over the economy. They have spent themselves into a crisis several times due to their high Debt:GDP ratio

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              Sure I hate Peronists as much as the next guy, however you can’t possibly be arguing in favour of austerity when rampant poverty is killing off your populace. Milei is a piece of shit that perpetuates impoverishment by also taking debt with IMF while cutting national industry via privatisation (none of it is bought by Argentine interests, all of them foreign).

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      How’s giving money going to help when it would take a million of me to counter a single billionaire?

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        We don’t need to match a billionaire. We just need to finance lawyers and advocates to work on our behalf.

        As bad as things are now, think about how much quicker things would devolve without organizations like planned parenthood, the EFF, and the ACLU.

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    Not mine, but from a post: First, you’re never going to win a head-on battle with an adversary that’s got you outgunned. That’s not the point of the Resistance. The point is to create friction, make it hard for your adversary to operate, to increase transaction costs.

    Second, resistance doesn’t have to be a dramatic act. It can be a small act, like losing a sheet of paper, taking your time processing something, not serving someone in a restaurant. Small acts taken by thousands have big effects.

    Third, use your privilege and access if you’ve got it. He and his buddies stole weapons from the Nazis by driving up with a truck to the weapons depot, speaking German, acting like it was a routine pick up, and driving away.

    Fourth, part of the third point really, sometimes the best way to do things is right out in the open. Because no one will believe something like what you’re doing would be happening so blatantly. All good Social Engineers know this.

    Five, bide your time. But be ready for opportunity when it strikes. Again, your action need not be dramatic. Just a little sand in the gears helps.

    Six, and this is a no-brainer, operate in cells to limit damage to the resistance should they take you out. Limit the circulation of info to your cell, avoid writing things down and…

    Seven, be very careful with whom you trust. Snitches and compromised individuals are everywhere. My dad was arrested because of a snitch. His friends weren’t so lucky, the Gestapo machine gunned the cabin they were in without bothering to try and arrest them.

    Eight, use the skills you have to contribute. Dad was an electrical engineer. When the Nazis imposed the death penalty for owning a radio (the British sent coded messages to the Resistance after BBC shows) he said he became the most popular guy in town.

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        It is very much applicable.

        Second, resistance doesn’t have to be a dramatic act. It can be a small act, like losing a sheet of paper, taking your time processing something, not serving someone in a restaurant. Small acts taken by thousands have big effects.

        Fourth, part of the third point really, sometimes the best way to do things is right out in the open. Because no one will believe something like what you’re doing would be happening so blatantly. All good Social Engineers know this.

        Five, bide your time. But be ready for opportunity when it strikes. Again, your action need not be dramatic. Just a little sand in the gears helps.

        Every government needs to work. It depends on its loyalists to give it financial and organizational support in exchange for economic benefits.

        So anything that interferes with the “normal” order of things is an act of resistance. Also don’t get fooled into the idea, that you will resist once things reach a certain threshold. By then you will feel what needs to be done to be way to big for your own abilities, since you never trained and tried to do anything.

        Start with something easy like putting up political stickers around your town. That sounds easy in concept, but you already will train yourself to be brazen, but also on alert if someone politically opposed to you might want to challenge you verbally or attack you physically. You life close to an amazon warehouse? Why not skip a green phase, when the delivery trucks are lined up behind you?

        Speaking of Amazon, we see with the Resistance for Palestine, that Boycotts work. Making a point of not buying products from companies that support the Israeli regime can be expanded to also making a point of not buying into the Trump government.

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          So… the copy pasta isn’t applicable and your best practical advice is putting up stickers?

          The answer to OPs question is to build strong, inclusive, local communities with friends and neighbours, as well as charities and existing community groups.

          Also, prep. Figure out what you’d need at home to avoid leaving for a week. Assemble a bug out pack. Improve basic skills for independence like sewing, preserving, first aid.

          The stuff you copied seems to have neglected to mention these practical, actionable tasks.

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            I said “start with”. Which also is consistent with point 2, that it does not have to be the grand act of plotting a political execution, robbing the army of their weapons and other activities requiring strong dedication and risk taking.

            Also do you expect people on an internet forum to recommend you specific actions that could be considered illegal, for which they could also get in trouble?

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        You think Nazi Germany imposed the death penalty on owning a radio from day one? It’s a slow process, and it must be disrupted as early as possible.

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        Rally, apply pressure to local politics, interfere with the workings of the government and their loyalists…

        Putting up political stickers, Grafitti, sharing leaflets and more action forms to drive up costs of operations for the Trump system.

        For more specific actions you could take inspiration from Palaction, who take action against Britains complicity in the Gaza genocide. https://www.palestineaction.org/

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        Strong, inclusive communities are the antithesis of fascism. If everyone had a sense of belonging and camaraderie with their community it would be a much less fertile population for fascist ideas to spread.

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        Just having a network of care, looking out for each other and replacing functions a fascist state doesn’t offer any more (think childcare/healthcare/food for those in need) can be a huge act of resistance. Organizing political protests as long as it’s still possible (even if it’s illegal). Strike, sabotage, physical violence … Eventually you will have the choice of imprisonment/death, assimilation or exile to me the last act of resistance will be never to choose assimilation. Continuing to live in exile can be as much of a martyrdom as dying for the cause.

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        The things being said here are a good start, but you cant do anything without other people. And if you and your community dont like the reccomended actions here? Make up your own plan with them! We cant just wait until we have the perfect plan to stop fascism and fix alll the world’s issues. We need to start working together now.

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      We’re getting our game plan for how to oppose the rise of a fascist oligarchy… On a site hosted by Harvard? Can’t review as access is gated by an interaction. But this has to be, at best, PMC propaganda. They are spontaneously selling the poison to the right while they try to get us to take the antidote.

      Also, needs to be downloaded. Feel like pressing that “download PDF” button just immediately places you on some “domestic threats” list for sale.

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        Settle down mate.

        As far as that web server is concerned displaying that abstract in your browser is the same as downloading a pdf. Your browser just downloaded that web page.

        Regardless, while posh universities might produce right leaning graduates, the academics that staff them are predominantly left leaning.

        Here’s the main points from the executive summary anyway…

        Build and maintain a large-scale, multiracial, cross-class, pro-democracy united front that continues to push for structural/institutional reforms and contest for power, even after authoritarianism has appeared to consolidate. The coalition should use ongoing local, county, state, and national elections as flashpoints by which to build a resilient and expansive pro-democracy movement, document election malfeasance, and promote anti- authoritarian platforms, reforms, and talking points for campaigns to take up at all levels of government.

        Protect, hold, and build local and community power through alternative institutions to address urgent communal problems, protect minority rights and lives, reinforce an oppositional pro-democratic culture, develop leadership, and build capacity for collective mobilization when needed.

        Build pressure to induce defections among those loyal to the autocrat or authoritarian alliance, including through widespread economic noncooperation and labor action.

        Prevent, deter, and strengthen resilience to increased threats of state or paramilitary violence through strategic planning and organized and disciplined actions, including building a capacity to anticipate, induce, and exploit defections; broaden inclusive participation

        Emphasis is from the original document

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        If that was the case, you’d already be on the list for opening the page.

        Use Tor if you want to be safer

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    A few options:

    1. Get out. If you’re one of the people fascists want dead, then surviving is in and of itself an act of resistance. Leave their domain. Go somewhere else. And live – Just live. Build a life they can’t touch.

    2. Organise and survive under their noses. It will not be easy, even if fascism has a short shelf life… It still does a lot of damage while it is active, and you and yours could end up as their target. Still, your best chance of surviving is by grouping up. Meet your neighbours, meet your local activists, get to know them, and start helping each other.

    3. Violence. But. It’s not enough to just go spree killer. The violent response demands organisation. You could join an armed resistance group. Or, if you leave the country, if it comes to war, you could enlist to fight against your old nation. Lots of people did both in the forties.

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      1. Sabotage - purposefully obstruct these lunatics any way you can. Delay their food orders. Slash their tires. etc. Delete emails. Empty gas tanks. If they’re constantly fixing shit there’s less time for them to create problems
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        See a big truck with a Trump sticker? Make their life hell. Slow them down in traffic. Intentionally make them annoyed and miserable.