DOJ finally posted that “embarrassing” court doc Google wanted to hide::Google exec said users get hooked on search engine like “cigarettes or drugs.”

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    Roszak’s notes also said that because users got hooked on Google’s search engine, Google was able to “mostly ignore the demand side” of “fundamental laws of economics” and “only focus on the supply side of advertisers, ad formats, and sales.”

    This is textbook phase one of what Cory Doctorow calls “enshittification”. Users don’t have much of a choice, so make it as shitty as you are able without them leaving? Check. Phase two (which Google is no doubt also doing) is to do give the same treatment to the advertisers.

    The pressure to maximize profits ensures that all private entities performing this sort of connection role on the internet will eventually become enshittified. There’s no escape (under capitalism).

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    Hooked on a search engine? What a f****** nut job. You want to hook me on a search engine? How about give me the results I ask for without ads, without manipulation, without spam, then don’t take that information of what I searched for and apply it to me until the end of days and sell it to everyone and their brother.

    And honestly I can’t see anyone in the company watching that presentation and not coming up with the same overall feelings.

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      results I ask for without ads, without manipulation, without spam, then don’t take that information of what I searched for and apply it to me until the end of days and sell it to everyone and their brother

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        Currently self-hosting Searx-ng. Goes out through a VPN. It’s a meta search, so I my highest rankings are results that come back from multiple vendors. Pretty much eliminates sponsored results.

        I haven’t gotten around to putting it into my reverse proxy, so when I am out I just use duck duck go. Their results aren’t as good, but they work.

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          Lolnaw…

          • Buzz
          • Wave
          • Google+ (1,2 & 3)
          • Allo
          • You could include the myriad chat apps, but those could be argued to be more about direct communication at their core

          And those are just the Google branded ones. They’ve had a dozen other smaller acquisitions of services they tried to infuse cash into and keep going that failed as well.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    The document in question contains meeting notes that Google’s vice president for finance, Michael Roszak, “created for a course on communications,” Bloomberg reported.

    Sealing Roszak’s testimony made it harder for the public to understand the context of the document, Mehta worried.

    Part of the DOJ’s case argues that because Google has a monopoly over search, it’s less incentivized to innovate products that protect consumers from harm like invasive data collection.

    A Google spokesman told Bloomberg that Roszak’s statements “don’t reflect the company’s opinion” and “were drafted for a public speaking class in which the instructions were to say something hyperbolic and attention-grabbing.”

    According to Bloomberg, Google lawyer Edward Bennett told the court that Roszak’s notes suggest that the senior executive’s plan for his presentation was essentially “cosplaying Gordon Gekko”—a movie villain who symbolizes corporate greed from 1987’s Wall Street.

    The debate over how much of Roszak’s notes could be shared with the public ended with an agreement between the DOJ and Google on all trial exhibits.


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  • SirEDCaLot@lemmy.fmhy.net
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    Ah how three mighty have fallen.
    I remember the days when Google was optimizing their page to save 1/10th of a second of load time, when they publicly stated their goal was to get people off of Google as quickly as possible and on to whatever they were looking for. That was back in the ‘don’t be evil’ days. Those days appear to be long gone.