Apple has acknowledged user complaints that iPhone 15 and 15 Pro phones are overheating, reports Forbes, but said that contrary to speculation, it has nothing to do with the phone’s hardware design. Forbes noted an update to Instagram has already rolled out with version 302, released September 27th, to address some of the issues.

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      9 months ago

      How is it that? It looks the main issue is a patchable OS bug that will be addressed in 17.1, or sooner.

      It’s unlikely to be a hardware design flaw. It seems to be sporadic, and hit both the new enclosure materials and CPU, as well as the 15’s with the last generation CPU and old aluminum enclosure.

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          I’m well aware of the reference.

          My point is that, unlike the iPhone 4, this likely isn’t a silicon or enclosure issue. If it was, it wouldn’t be hitting the old repurposed last gen stuff too. We’re also getting reports of apps in iOS 17 heating up older devices and iPads. It’s the new OS, SDKs, and certain apps that haven’t been updated for iOS 17.

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            Yep. Every modern device throttles. They probably just need to tweak the algorithm. The iPhone antenna problem was a hardware problem that couldn’t be fixed with software alone.

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              9 months ago

              Looks like it’s an OS bug that is causing some processes to cycle over and over and over. Looks like it’s just a bug fix and making sure 3rd parties have properly updated for iOS 17.

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    This is almost certainly an iOS 17 issue, and it looks like it’s going to be patched soon.

    Blaming the titanium doesn’t make sense. People are also reporting the issue on the iPhone 15 models that are all aluminum and are running an iteration of the old A16.

    This will be a non issue in a few days.

    Edit: People are also reporting that these apps heat up the logic board of older hardware, iPads, etc. This looks like a good old fashioned case of a bugs in a new n.0 OS and apps that have not been updated to run smoothly in a new OS.

    https://youtu.be/P6X2ZIkYFsQ?si=-bZpEf5-lh_vEBdM

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      I have a titanium flashlight and it sucks for heat dissipation. It overheats very quickly. I would bet it has something to do with it.

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        The previous phones were made of aluminium and stainless steel, both of which aren’t great at heat dissipation either. Titanium’s heat dissipation is about 17W/mK (imperial: 9.829 BTU/(h*ft*℉)), aluminium was much better, but the Pro was made of stainless steel (15W/mK or in imperial terms 8.673 BTU/(h*ft*℉)) which is a worse heat conductor than titanium.

        The base models are losing quite a lot of heat conductivity but it’s also hitting the Pro models which got a conductivity improvement.

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          The iPhone 15 base models are still Aluminum. Also the iPhone 15 pro models are only titanium on the sides (all the way around the phone). The chassis is still Aluminum and the back is still glass.

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              Maybe, but I liked that you found the thermal conductivity for the different materials. I hadn’t even considered that it probably wasn’t the titanium until I started thinking about how those numbers for stainless and titanium were pretty close!

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        The Ti in the new pros is just a band around some aluminum, and this issue is being reproduces on the aluminum phones, old stainless steel phones, iPads, etc.

        All signs are starting to point to software now.

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    iPhone runs like a newly installed stove, and Android refuses to dial 911…

    Wonderful world we’re all living in…

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      Yeah, let’s be real. It’s something that isn’t impacting most people, a lot of folks in the various Apple forums can’t reproduce it, and it’s going to be patched shortly.

      Of the stupid shit Apple has done, this is pretty low on the totem poll.

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      I had a 6, and that bending thing was entirely blown out of proportion. I had no problems keeping it in my back pocket, yet YMMV.

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        I love people putting out the “everyone is wrong because I didn’t have a problem” response like there weren’t tens of millions of devices sold.

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          It’s also just really hard to design devices at scale. Users will always come up with creative ways to blast your hardware apart.

          That use-case was pretty obvious in retrospect, but it’s still hard to test and design for how hundreds of millions of people will use it. I think the entire industry learned from that debacle.

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        I watched multiple tech reviews bend the thing in their bare hands. Just because you didn’t damage yours doesn’t mean it wasn’t a huge issue

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        It was really the 6 plus that had banking problems. Was your a plus or regular?

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    We have people on YouTube reproducing these thermal issues or iOS 17 and iPad OS 17 devices. The new aluminum phones, old stainless phones, iPads, etc.

    There are clearly issues with iOS 17 and some apps that needed to be updated to play nice with the new OS.

    A lot of people are experiencing this because Instagram is one of the apps that was heating up logic boards with iOS 17. And in the case of the Insta example, Instagram should’ve caught this earlier. Meta clearly fucked up. People have been reporting this bug in the betas for months, it’s easy to reproduce, and they should know that auto update is aggressive AF on iOS

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    “It’s not our fault, it’s theirs!”

    points to self

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    The official Reddit app launched an update that did this to my then-few months old iPhone 12 Pro Max back in early 2021. Switching to Apollo immediately fixed the problem.

    And now here we are. No problems since then, but TBF I haven’t used any other terrible apps that sloppily force as many ads through my phone as fast as possible.

    Apple might actually have a point here.

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      That implies a problem with Apple’s scheduler and/or thermal management

      The kernel should never allow a user space processes to overheat the hardware

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    Well they’re not wrong; Ive got an Xr and a 13Pro on 17, and they both ran hot for the first two versions. And I don’t even have Instagram installed….