GrapheneOS is so great pixel devices, I hope you all try it! The private & secure mobile operating system with Android app compatibility. Developed as a non-profit & is free and open source software
- Permission toggles, pin scrambling, auto-reboot, scopes, MAC randomization, isolated user profiles, longer passwords, sandboxed apps, no bloat & increased battery life +more!
- Privacy, security & anonymity FOSS!
Why I deleted GrapheneOS
Something to consider
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Yes. The project seems to be in good hands while Micay is away. Regardless, the open nature of their work gives me additional confidence.
You can still like the project as a concept and not like the people in charge. Regardless, this is a good piece of media people should review when considering using the OS.
Sure but he is so toxic it has kept me away and probably others. I don’t want to be associated with a person like that.
Apparently according to others in the thread, he’s since stepped down
https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/5235-stepping-down-as-project-leader-of-grapheneos
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Associated with him? by just using software?
Stop exaggerating
Some people aren’t comfortable running an OS on their phone that’s created by an absolute nut case, myself included. I just switch off Graphene back to LOS because of this shit
That makes much more sense
I actually used grapheneos for a few months this year but I switched back to stock android about a month ago for unrelated reasons. I may go back eventually but for now I’m good.
I don’t generally recommend getting content from these influencers/clickbait on YouTube, podcasts or elsewhere. It’s largely the equivalent of junk food or reality TV. There are a couple people making good videos about GrapheneOS like @sideofburritos . Most good content is written.
Most clickbait youtubers are spreading misrepresentations/fabrications about the GrapheneOS project and directing harassment towards our project members. Clickbait youtubers like Louis misrepresented certain private conversations he leaked, lied about what was said and the context in order to engage in severe bullying and harassment. He wasn’t spot on about what he said and it wasn’t honest. He had already engaged in cruel behavior in private for a year. Please read what we posted as a project and what Daniel posted. It does not say that he’s leaving the project. It says he’s stepping down from public and leadership roles due to harassment. It has been misinterpreted elsewhere. I don’t generally recommend getting content from these influencers/clickbait on YouTube, podcasts or elsewhere. It’s largely the equivalent of junk food or reality TV. There are a couple people making good videos about GrapheneOS like @sideofburritos . Most good content is written.
Most clickbait youtubers are spreading misrepresentations/fabrications about the GrapheneOS project and directing harassment towards our project members. Clickbait youtubers like Louis misrepresented certain private conversations he leaked, lied about what was said and the context in order to engage in severe bullying and harassment. He wasn’t spot on about what he said & it wasn’t honest. He had already engaged in cruel behavior in private for a year. Please read what we posted as a project and what Daniel posted. It does not say that he’s leaving the project. It says he’s stepping down from public and leadership roles due to harassment. It has been misinterpreted elsewhere. I don’t generally recommend getting content from these influencers/clickbait on YouTube, podcasts or elsewhere. It’s largely the equivalent of junk food or reality TV. There are a couple people making good videos about GrapheneOS like @sideofburritos . Most good content is written.
Your position doesn’t sit well with me because it ignores Daniel’s failures and enables his destructive behaviour. He had issues with Rust, there was the CopperheadOS implosion, and now another drama around GrapheneOS… too many “misinterpretations”. And if you keep finding yourself in dramas, then you’re either very unlucky or part of the problem.
Daniel seems to be very smart and capable when it comes to coding. He’s the person you want to create something like GrapheneOS. But the guy lacks “people skills”. He’s too confrontational and doesn’t always take criticism well. Then there’s the destructive and toxic behaviour… he lets some random internet comment take too much of his time and attention instead of ignoring and moving on. The “us vs them” mentality also creates a toxic environment. No person and no project is always right, but if you say the wrong thing or even make a positive comment about a different project, you’re automatically part of the “conspiracy”. This is not good and shouldn’t be encouraged.
Yes, clickbaiting YouTubers are a problem. Yes, Daniel Micay also seems to be a victim in this case. But some of the leaked communications look bad no matter if they are misrepresented or not. I don’t agree with everything Louis Rossmann says, but Daniel’s “you’re with me or against me” position is obviously bad and I don’t understand why would anyone defend that… GrapheneOS is not a cult!
Being good at one thing doesn’t makes us good at everything. Daniel is good at coding and dealing the technical things, so he should do that. He’s not good at dealing with people or being exposed to unfiltered feedback. He should be working behind the scenes, not doing PR work for GrapheneOS. His mental sanity, the project, and the community would benefit a lot if he had a better understanding of his limitations.
[Edit:] Just to add, I think GrapheneOS is indeed amazing. Daniel’s behaviour is not good though.