• burchalka@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    Because that way they won’t be able to extort goods and services for the hostages … so sad seeing good hostage wasted…

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      9 months ago

      In this press release Hamas said they tried to release more prisoners but Israeli wouldn’t accept them.

      If Hamas is being genuine, there shouldn’t be any tit for tat on a humanitarian hostage release.

      I’m just trying to demonstrate how The Hamas statement feels demonstrably disingenuous. Because they have other options.

      Hamas is not a good actor, the plight of the people in the Gaza strip does not helped by Hamas being such a bad actor.

      • المنطقة عكف عفريت@lemmy.worldOP
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        9 months ago

        From what I understand they released two hostages via the Red Cross and things went fine. I think Hamas willing to return hostages is a good thing. Why won’t Israel take them up on it despite them already releasing two? Most likely imo because Israel’s long term goals include genocide and their handling of the hostage situation so far has been shit.

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          9 months ago

          I think the balance of probability is demonstrates that’s Hamas is lying here. If they wanted to release two hostages, with no strings attached, they could simply drop them off at the Red Cross, the UN, or at the Egyptian border. To claim that they need Israelis agreement, and support to release a hostage is extremely disingenuous.

          Honestly, it sounds like they’re just trying to get a sound bite for propaganda purposes. It doesn’t matter that it’s obviously a lie, the people who can see it’s a lie aren’t the ones the propaganda’s for.

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            9 months ago

            . If they wanted to release two hostages, with no strings attached, they could simply drop them off at the Red Cross, the UN, or at the Egyptian border.

            They did drop two hostages to the Red Cross just 2 days ago.

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              9 months ago

              Great. Why can’t they do that again? Why press release that Israel is preventing them from releasing two more hostages with no strings attached?

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                9 months ago

                No one said or suggested they can’t do thart again. It’s saying Israel doesn’t want to cooperate.

                I don’t want to believe Hamas straight away but Israel is the one with the track record of lies.

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                  9 months ago

                  My point is, why does it matter if Israel cooperates or not? There’s many places to release the hostages to that aren’t Israeli.

                  So this press release, and the implication of it, looks like straight propaganda based on a lie.

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                    9 months ago

                    Why does it matter if Israel, whose citizens and visitors are hostages, responds to a request to release the hostages?

                    Give me a break. Israel always gets absolved in everything doesn’t it.

                    Yeah it could be propaganda but your reasoning is really deficient here.

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                  9 months ago

                  Internally, Netanyahu can’t afford to reject any semi reasonable offer. He also wants to be able to say he did anything positive. He’ll hopefully be crucified no matter what, but in his eyes nothing is his fault and he’s working hard at getting points for any achievement and blaming everything and anyone in the past millenia.