• AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    As stated, when you’re suicidal, you aren’t really looking beyond your own pain and opportunities to end it. It’s easy for someone who is doing all right to tell someone in white hot anguish what they should have done.

    Your response is indemic of the crisis of empathy in this country. It’s easy for a rich person to tell a poor person what they should have done instead of stealing. Our people much prefer the easy way of casting judgment and advocating maximum punitive vengeance so that they can play pretend we live in a black and white, just nation and world, where everyone earned what they have and the suffering did something to deserve it.

    The hard thing would trying to understand for what drove one of our people to this madness to begin with, and maybe even help. But that would be extremely un-American. Hoo boy, lets deep fry his ass boy howdy! Gonna get assed raped in prison itellyouwhat that’ll teach him to… value the sanctity of the lives of himself and others?

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      11 months ago

      If he’s not thinking clearly, why he would he choose your proposed suicide method? It’s a more rational choice but like you’ve said this isn’t a decision being made rationally.

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        11 months ago

        The same reason that people like him choose methods that can fail by being inturrupted, by failure of method, or by possibility of permanent disability/disfigurement rather than death.

        Certainty.

        The offer of going to an office with a guarantee of an end would stop the vast majority of other methods where one must overcome that lack of certainty to make the attempt. Even a gunshot to the head can and does fail, leaving matters significantly worse for the individual.

        I’m not saying it would stop everyone, but it would stop a great many of desperate people from buying guns or running into traffic while in a bad place and potentially using it on someone they feel is the cause before themselves, or situations like this.

        Some people want to go out loud, but that isn’t the norm. The goal is usually just going out with a minimum of suffering, with the loudness of the act being a symptom of the person’s opportunities for attempts, ie what they can and cannot access.

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      11 months ago

      Maybe you are the one lacking empathy here if you think that it is right and defendable for someone to eradicate 83 lives because they are depressed.