Cops have alternative means to access encrypted messages, court says.
  • Martin@feddit.nuEnglish
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    8 months ago

    “While indiscriminate backdoors might be cheaper for the State than alternative investigative measures, they were expensive for society at large on account of the security risks they produced,” EISI told the ECHR.

    It’s great when someone with some sway actually gets it.

    • hydroptic@sopuli.xyzEnglish
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      8 months ago

      EU institutions are pretty great, but sooner or later they’re going to lose the fight against the technofascist nightmare that’s constantly getting pushed on us

    • nexusband@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      8 months ago

      Don’t. They already get way to much taxes and while these are the shining examples of what the EU should be and are beacon of hope…there are other utterly ridiculous laws and stupid regulations we have to deal with. Don’t get me wrong, I’m proud to be European and so on, but it’s not the bright haven some people make it to be…

      • GoodEye8@lemm.eeEnglish
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        8 months ago

        Can you name any ridiculous laws or regulations that negatively affect you? I have a hard time recalling any EU law or regulation that directly affects me without a good reason.

        • nexusband@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          8 months ago

          https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/103530/eu-demands-speed-limiters-all-new-cars-know-rules-and-how-they-work

          One of the most prevalent examples that affect me - it’s a horrible system and most car makers are not able to do it properly, because the camera systems are not cheap enough to be good enough. Mercedes, BMW and so on do it relatively decent, but they’ve gotten so expensive, even the base models are out of my reach now.

          This could go on for a while, but to make matters short: The basic idea is cool, but mandating it like they have makes it a nuisance and will make most people turn it off. All of the people I know that have a car that has that system turn it off immediately starting.

          • GoodEye8@lemm.eeEnglish
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            8 months ago

            That doesn’t seem like a stupid or ridiculous regulation, you even agree that the basic idea is cool. The issue here isn’t the idea of the regulation, but the implementation by manufacturers. It will take time to get the implementation right and when it does the manufacturers will optimize the solution and the price will also come down. I don’t think anyone goes “ABS makes cars so expensive”, because the cost has been optimized.

            • nexusband@lemmy.worldEnglish
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              8 months ago

              The difference is, ABS was only mandatory after it was fully developed and actually safe. Same goes for the airbag. This is horseshit, same goes for the AI Rules, EU Cloud initiative, unified power grid and so on.

              • Gabu@lemmy.worldEnglish
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                8 months ago

                Airbags are STILL not safe, my guy – they can take your thumbs clean off.

                • nexusband@lemmy.worldEnglish
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                  8 months ago

                  What kind of ridiculous argument is that? You can pinch your dick in a zipper - are zippers unsafe? You can chocke in a tomato, are tomatoes unsafe? Just because something designed to safe you, can also kill you, doesn’t make it unsafe. You can get seriously injured from a seat belt - if you consider seat belts unsafe, you should probably not leave you home ever again.

  • Clent@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    8 months ago

    Pity we don’t have any of those human rights in America. Maybe we should join the EU.

  • GiddyGap@lemm.eeEnglish
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    8 months ago

    I feel like Europe is the only place actually making an effort to protect personal privacy these days.

    • abhibeckert@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      8 months ago

      That’s because Europe has actual experience with having their privacy invaded and it wasn’t just to show you relevant ads. During the war my grandparents burned letters and books after reading them. And they had nothing to hide either - and all of the ones they burned were perfectly innocent and legal… but even those can be taken out of context and used against you during a police investigation.

      The UN formally declared privacy as a human right a few years after the war ended. Specifically in response to what happened during the war.

      A lot of the data used by police to commit horrific crimes was collected before the war, for example they’d go into a cemetery home and find a list of people who attended a funeral six years ago, then arrest everyone who was there. You can’t wait for a government to start doing things like that - you have to stop the data from being collected in the first place.

      Imagine how much worse it could be today, with so much more data collected and automated tools to analyse the data. Imagine if you lived in Russian occupied Ukraine right now - what data can Russia find about you? Do you have a brother serving in Ukraine’s army? Maybe your brother would defect if you were taken hostage…

  • Minotaur@lemm.eeEnglish
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    8 months ago

    Maybe one day, the land of personal freedom and Liberty can have a small amount of the personal freedom and Liberty often declared by the “globalist big government” EU.